Article 39749 of rec.music.synth: Newsgroups: rec.music.synth Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!hela.iti.org!cs.widener.edu!eff!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!metlay From: metlay@netcom.com (metlay) Subject: Re: Super Jupiter/JX10 etc. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 17:43:07 GMT Organization: Atomic City Summary: THE FINAL WORD, PEOPLE! References: <1992Sep14.153826.25779@bmerh85.bnr.ca> Lines: 35 Okay, okay already. From the Trivia Master Himself: The Super Jupiter (MKS-80) was a rackmounted analog synth with an architecture based on but not entirely identical to that of the Jupiter-8 (JP-8). It had a rackmountable programmer module called the MPG-80. The JX3P was a true analog synth keyboard with six voices and a combined preset/programmable memory. Its rackmount version, which (like the 3P in later ROM revs) sensed velocity, was the MKS-30, and it was programmable from the tabletop programmer module PG-200. The guitar synth in the GR-700 is a JX3P. The Super JX (JX-10) was a 12-voice DCO-based analog synth with bitimbral capabilities and a 76-note keyboard. It was a slightly more powerful version of the six-voice JX8P 61-note keyboard synth. The Super JX (MKS-70) was a rackmount version of the JX-10, and IDENTICAL to it in every way except for the lack of a keyboard. The JX-10 and MKS-70 are programmable from the tabletop module PG-800. The bass synth in the GR-77B is a JX8P. The alphaJuno 1 and alphaJuno 2 were six-voice DCO-based analog synths that were designed to give "analog" sound and features for less cash. The 1 had a four-octave keyboard and the 2 had a five octave keyboard. Also the 2's keyboard sensed and transmitted something that the 1's didn't (aftertouch, I believe). Their module was the PG-300, and the rackmount version of the 2 was the MKS-50. Any other questions? -- metlay | I'm currently taking suggestions for the next | utterly brilliant quote to be put here. Please | feel free to nominate anyone you consider to be metlay@netcom.netcom.com | a worthwhile candidate (with attribution). Thanks. Article 39809 of rec.music.synth: Newsgroups: rec.music.synth Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!wupost!csus.edu!netcom.com!metlay From: metlay@netcom.com (metlay) Subject: Re: Super Jupiter/JX10 etc. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 17:15:53 GMT Organization: Atomic City Summary: Junoes comma old References: <1992Sep14.153826.25779@bmerh85.bnr.ca> <1992Sep14.235433.29807@sal.wisc.edu> Lines: 43 In article <1992Sep14.235433.29807@sal.wisc.edu> rej@sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones) writes: >In article metlay@netcom.com (metlay) writes: >> >>Any other questions? > >Glad you asked. (The punters are of course welcome to try their hands as well.) Figures. Me and my big mouth. *sigh* >Let's talk early Junos: 60, 106. I've played around with the Juno 60 >pretty extensively, but am unfamiliar with the 106. Sonically, how does >the 106 measure up to the 60? And for that matter, how does the JX3P >compare? I am in love with the Juno 60's sound: 8 resonant filters all >going SSSHHHIOOOOUUUWWWWMMM, low grumbling sawtooth wave clusters, >smeary noisy built-in chorus in two count them two exciting varieties. >But no MIDI. So, do the other Roland polythings come anywhere near close >in mythic qualities so that I can avoid Neeeding this Juno-60? Hrm. Well, if you actually got 8 resonant filters all going, ah, whatever they were going, then I'm impressed with your programming abilities-- the Juno 60 only has SIX filters on board. |-> But I digress. Primary differences between the Juno 60 and 106 are the DCB vs. MIDI interfacing, the number of presets (56 vs 128, I believe), and an arpeggiator vs. no arpeggiator (the one thing they took OFF the 60, alas). Other than that, they're both one-osc (VCO, I think) machines with chorus and suboctave to fatten things a bit. Both are favored for one-osc "tight" bass-sequence sounds, as are the SH-101 and MC-202. The JX3P is a two-oscillator synth with MIDI. It has only 32 RAM patches and 32 ROM presets, and its front panel is impossible to work with, BUT it sounds great, it becomes very easy to use if you attach a PG-200 to it (and you get knobs rather than sliders!), it receives MIDI velocity, and it comes in a rack version, the MKS-30 "Planet S". >And, barring that, anyone got a MIDI->DCB box they're not using? Ack. Good luck, dude. Thhphht. -- metlay | I'm currently taking suggestions for the next | utterly brilliant quote to be put here. Please | feel free to nominate anyone you consider to be metlay@netcom.netcom.com | a worthwhile candidate (with attribution). Thanks. Article 42310 of rec.music.synth: Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!think.com!ames!sun-barr!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!texsun!hadrian!craig From: craig@hadrian.uk.sun.com (Craig Barnes - Sun UK - Senior Systems Admin N + SW Group Regio) Newsgroups: rec.music.synth Subject: Re: Roland Hybrids Message-ID: <13739@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> Date: 29 Oct 92 09:59:33 GMT References: <1992Oct28.235144.14211@bmerh85.bnr.ca> Sender: news@texsun.Central.Sun.COM Reply-To: craig@hadrian.uk.sun.com Organization: Sun Microsystems Lines: 15 The MKS30 is a JX3p in a rack. Craig MKS7 = Juno 60 + TR707 (Preset only) MKS10 = Piano Module (Naff) MKS20 = Nice Piano Module MKS30 = JX3p MKS50 = Alpha Juno 1 MKS70 = Super JX10 MKS80 = Super Jupiter 8 MKS100 = Naff Sampler MKS220 = Another Naff Sampler Article 42372 of rec.music.synth: Newsgroups: rec.music.synth Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!wupost!uwm.edu!src.honeywell.com!The-Star.honeywell.com!umn.edu!lynx!zia.aoc.nrao.edu!awkerr From: awkerr@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Alan Kerr) Subject: Re: Roland Hybrids Message-ID: <1992Oct30.025420.14761@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM References: <1992Oct28.235144.14211@bmerh85.bnr.ca> <13739@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 02:54:20 GMT Lines: 24 In article <13739@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> craig@hadrian.uk.sun.com writes: > >The MKS30 is a JX3p in a rack. > >Craig > >MKS7 = Juno 60 + TR707 (Preset only) >MKS10 = Piano Module (Naff) >MKS20 = Nice Piano Module >MKS30 = JX3p >MKS50 = Alpha Juno 1 >MKS70 = Super JX10 >MKS80 = Super Jupiter 8 >MKS100 = Naff Sampler "naff"?? NKS100 = S10 module >MKS220 = Another Naff Sampler -- Alan W. Kerr awkerr@aoc.nrao.edu National Radio Astronomy Observatory awkerr@nrao.bitnet Socorro, NM, USA uunet!nrao.edu!awkerr Article 3118 of rec.music.makers.synth: Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!destroyer!news.iastate.edu!dunix.drake.edu!acad.drake.edu!seh003 From: seh003@acad.drake.edu Subject: Re: Roland Juno-6 Message-ID: <1993Mar5.183121.1@acad.drake.edu> Lines: 38 Sender: news@dunix.drake.edu (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: acad.drake.edu Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA References: <2B97AB2E.7729@news.service.uci.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1993 00:31:21 GMT In article <2B97AB2E.7729@news.service.uci.edu>, dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes: > In article cs89bsm@brunel.ac.uk (Brendan S McEnroe) writes: >>For Sale 250 pounds >> >>cs89bsm@brunel.ac.uk >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Roland Juno-6 Polyphonic Analogue Synthesizer >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Brief spec: > [...] > > Hmmm. Never heard of this synth. From reading the description, it > sounds just like a Juno-60, but I saw no mention of DCB interfacing. Is this > the difference between the two? The Juno-60 came after the Juno-6. Actually, here's the Juno progression. Juno-6 Juno-60 Juno-106 Juno-1/Juno-2 The 6 has no memory, no DCB. Front panel only. The 60 has 56? patch memory, and DCB The 106 has 128 patch memory and MIDI. The 1 and 2 use Roland's alpha dial for programming rather than sliders. The 1 is 4-octave, non-velocity. The 2 is 5-octave with velocity. The sound architecture is basically the same on all of them, I believe. I'd be posting to ask for a Juno-106 to buy, but the tax-man came on a bit strong this year... Stephen /-----------------------/ ... Beware, my friends, as you pass by / Stephen E. Hale / as you are now so once was I / SEH003@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU / as I am now so you will be /-----------------------/ prepare, my friends, to follow me ... Article 8794 of rec.music.makers.synth: Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!xlink.net!math.fu-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!scsing.switch.ch!cisun20!siavidy204a.unil.ch!jean-damien.humair From: Jean-Damien Humair Subject: Re: Yamaha synths Message-ID: <1993Jul16.092404.8977@ulci20.unil.ch> X-Xxmessage-Id: X-Xxdate: Fri, 16 Jul 93 11:26:16 GMT Sender: news@ulci20.unil.ch Organization: Universite de Lausanne References: <21v568$2et@bronze.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 09:24:04 GMT Lines: 46 In article <21v568$2et@bronze.lcs.mit.edu> Erasure, hanzo@bronze.lcs.mit.edu writes: > Last and not least, can any of you tell me some decent details about >Juno's, Jupiters, Alpha Juno's, JX8P, and JX-10P? To me, they all kind of >seem alike and I need some info abut them.....Thanx... I tried to elaborate a list by heart, Model Date Architecture Polyphony Progr Rem -------------------------------------------------------------- BIG ROLAND SYNTHS: Jupiter 4 ca.1978 VCO,VCF, 4 8 VCA,2 EG Jupiter 8 ca.1981 2VCO, VCF, 8 64? split/layer VCA, 2EG big sound Jupiter 6 ca.1984 A kind of JP 8 with MIDI + Key velocity JX10P ca.1986 2DCO, VCF 8 ? 76 Keys VCA, 2EG LOW COST ROLAND SYNTHS Juno 6 1982 DCO, VCF, 6 No! VCA, EG Juno 60 ca.1982 Same as Juno 6 with 32(?) progs. JX3P ca.1983 2DCO(?), VCF 6 32? MIDI VCA, EG JX8P ca.1984 2DCO, VCF 6! ? Key Velocity Juno 106 ca.1985 A kind of Juno 60 with MIDI and 128 progs Alpha Juno1 1986/7 Alpha Juno2 Hope this helps Jean-Damien humair Article 8814 of rec.music.makers.synth: Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!sousa.ako.dec.com!ranger.enet.dec.com!eirikur From: eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson) Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth Subject: Roland Jupiters (was Re: Yamaha synths) Date: 16 Jul 1993 13:46:57 -0400 Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 15 Sender: newsa@sousa.ako.dec.com Message-ID: <226pih$pha@sousa.ako.dec.com> References: <21v568$2et@bronze.lcs.mit.edu> <1993Jul16.092404.8977@ulci20.unil.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: sousa.ako.dec.com The Jupiter 6 does not have velocity. It supports only note-on/off, program change, and MIDI mode. I've got one. I'm told that there was a Jupiter 8A, that was a JP8 with MIDI. I don't know what the real distinction between the JP8 and JP6 was, having not seen an 8. Eirikur Hallgrimsson | "Rhodes? Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes!" eh@ranger.enet.dec.com | PATHWORKS for Macintosh| Article 8854 of rec.music.makers.synth: Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!netnews.upenn.edu!netnews.noc.drexel.edu!dunx1!palmersd From: palmersd@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Steven Palmer) Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth Subject: Re: Roland Jupiters (was Re: Yamaha synths) Message-ID: <1993Jul18.013937.17815@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Date: 18 Jul 93 01:39:37 GMT References: <21v568$2et@bronze.lcs.mit.edu> <1993Jul16.092404.8977@ulci20.unil.ch> <226pih$pha@sousa.ako.dec.com> Sender: news@netnews.noc.drexel.edu Organization: Drexel University, Phila. Pa. Lines: 27 In article <226pih$pha@sousa.ako.dec.com> eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson) writes: (info on JP6 deleted) >I'm told that there was a Jupiter 8A, >that was a JP8 with MIDI. Someone told you incorrectly. The *original* JP8's had CV-GATE inputs/outputs, the JP8a had the CV-GATEs replaced by the (infamous) Roland DCB interface bus. I'm 99% certain that Roland NEVER produced the JP8 in "factory" configuration that included MIDI. >I don't know what the real distinction between the JP8 and JP6 was, having not >seen an 8. The primary difference was that the JP8 had 8 voices and no MIDI. There were several other minor differences concerning modulation routings, # of patch memory locations, etc. One quick "sighting" tip- the JP8 has the ROLAND logo centered on the back side of the unit, while the JP6 has it offset closer to the heatsink. One other point- The JP6 also exists in a JP6a configuration (which includes enhanced MIDI functions and, most notably, a MIDI thru port on the unit). Hope this helps Steve Article 8907 of rec.music.makers.synth: Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!pa.dec.com!sousa.ako.dec.com!ranger.enet.dec.com!eirikur From: eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson) Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth Subject: Re: Roland Jupiters (was Re: Yamaha synths) Date: 19 Jul 1993 14:57:58 -0400 Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 18 Sender: newsa@sousa.ako.dec.com Message-ID: <22eqrm$bhc@sousa.ako.dec.com> References: <21v568$2et@bronze.lcs.mit.edu> <1993Jul16.092404.8977@ulci20.unil.ch> <226pih$pha@sousa.ako.dec.com> <1993Jul18.013937.17815@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sousa.ako.dec.com In article <1993Jul18.013937.17815@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>, you write... >One other point- The JP6 also exists in a JP6a configuration (which includes >enhanced MIDI functions and, most notably, a MIDI thru port on the unit). > That's most interesting. I find the JP6 MIDI implementation (notes, program change, and MIDI mode change) to be quite limiting, compared to the stuff you can perform in real time on the instrument. The schematics suggest a MIDI interface to the modulation LFO, but it's not in the MIDI implementation. I could believe in a 6A with a couple of the obvious MIDI needs addressed. Have you ever actually seen one? Eirikur Hallgrimsson | "Rhodes? Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes!" eh@ranger.enet.dec.com | PATHWORKS for Macintosh| Article 8922 of rec.music.makers.synth: Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell) Subject: Re: Roland Jupiters (was Re: Yamaha synths) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 03:04:17 GMT Message-ID: References: <1993Jul16.092404.8977@ulci20.unil.ch> <226pih$pha@sousa.ako.dec.com> <1993Jul18.013937.17815@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Organization: University of Illinois School of Music Lines: 25 In article <1993Jul18.013937.17815@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> palmersd@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Steven Palmer) writes: > >The primary difference was that the JP8 had 8 voices and no MIDI. There >were several other minor differences concerning modulation routings, ># of patch memory locations, etc. One quick "sighting" tip- the JP8 has >the ROLAND logo centered on the back side of the unit, while the JP6 has >it offset closer to the heatsink. Huh? After clawing all over my JP-6, I didn't find a heatsink. > >One other point- The JP6 also exists in a JP6a configuration (which includes >enhanced MIDI functions and, most notably, a MIDI thru port on the unit). Uh...y'know, after the heatsink thing and now this, I'm not sure you know this unit all that well. My JP-6 has the aforementioned MIDI thru, but it doesn't have any enhancement to the MIDI implementation; just that same short list of notes, patch change, and nothing much else. It doesn't send bender messages, doesn't do a _lot_ of what "enhanced MIDI functions" would tend to imply, as a matter of fact. D.A.C. Crowell Computer Music Project/School of Music University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign (dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu) Article 8933 of rec.music.makers.synth: Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!uunet!pitt.edu!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!netnews.noc.drexel.edu!dunx1!palmersd From: palmersd@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Steven Palmer) Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth Subject: Re: Roland Jupiters (was Re: Yamaha synths) Message-ID: <1993Jul20.030038.7901@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Date: 20 Jul 93 03:00:38 GMT References: <226pih$pha@sousa.ako.dec.com> <1993Jul18.013937.17815@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Sender: news@netnews.noc.drexel.edu Organization: Drexel University, Phila. Pa. Lines: 45 In article dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell) writes: >In article <1993Jul18.013937.17815@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> palmersd@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Steven Palmer) writes: >> >>The primary difference was that the JP8 had 8 voices and no MIDI. There >>were several other minor differences concerning modulation routings, >># of patch memory locations, etc. One quick "sighting" tip- the JP8 has >>the ROLAND logo centered on the back side of the unit, while the JP6 has >>it offset closer to the heatsink. > >Huh? After clawing all over my JP-6, I didn't find a heatsink. Mea culpa- The JP-8 has a BIG nasty old heat sink which projects out of the back of the unit (like the OB series of synths), I *thought* the JP6 had an external heat sink as well (all my Oberheim gear has had them as well and I guess my mind "projected" heatsinks on the JP6 as well). I stand corrected, though the JP6 DOES have the ROLAND lettering offset on the case while the JP8 has it centered. >>One other point- The JP6 also exists in a JP6a configuration (which includes >>enhanced MIDI functions and, most notably, a MIDI thru port on the unit). > >Uh...y'know, after the heatsink thing and now this, I'm not sure you know >this unit all that well. GRRRRRRR!!! While I did make *MINOR* boo-boo on the cosmetic exterior of the JP6, I stand by the rest of my information (as told to me by Roland US). >My JP-6 has the aforementioned MIDI thru, but it >doesn't have any enhancement to the MIDI implementation; just that same >short list of notes, patch change, and nothing much else. It doesn't send >bender messages, doesn't do a _lot_ of what "enhanced MIDI functions" would >tend to imply, as a matter of fact. Double GRRRRRRR! Funny that an actual JP6 owner can take me to task about cosmetic details, complain about the MIDI implementation of the unit as if it were *my* fault for giving the info, but can't be bothered to provide any further details on the unit even though he owns one. Why bother sharing info if this is what you get? Steve Article 8939 of rec.music.makers.synth: Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell) Subject: Re: Roland Jupiters (was Re: Yamaha synths) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 06:47:52 GMT Message-ID: References: <1993Jul18.013937.17815@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> <1993Jul20.030038.7901@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Organization: University of Illinois School of Music Lines: 48 In article <1993Jul20.030038.7901@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> palmersd@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Steven Palmer) writes: >In article dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell) writes: > >>>One other point- The JP6 also exists in a JP6a configuration (which includes >>>enhanced MIDI functions and, most notably, a MIDI thru port on the unit). >> >>Uh...y'know, after the heatsink thing and now this, I'm not sure you know >>this unit all that well. > >GRRRRRRR!!! While I did make *MINOR* boo-boo on the cosmetic exterior of >the JP6, I stand by the rest of my information (as told to me by Roland >US). Ahhhh..._here's_ the problem. Keep in mind that Roland is the same company that seemingly doesn't know that their TR-808 is a popular drum machine these days. More than likely they didn't give out the right info, confusing it with another model...which given the multitudinal similarities between all of the Juno and Jupiter model classifications and numbers, wouldn't be all that inconceivable...not to mention all their new "J..." classification toys. After all, if Roland were on top of things, we'd have the 808 kick in something else by now, right...??? > >>My JP-6 has the aforementioned MIDI thru, but it >>doesn't have any enhancement to the MIDI implementation; just that same >>short list of notes, patch change, and nothing much else. It doesn't send >>bender messages, doesn't do a _lot_ of what "enhanced MIDI functions" would >>tend to imply, as a matter of fact. > >Double GRRRRRRR! Funny that an actual JP6 owner can take me to task about >cosmetic details, complain about the MIDI implementation of the unit as >if it were *my* fault for giving the info, but can't be bothered to provide >any further details on the unit even though he owns one. Well, what do you want to know about the beastie? You didn't _ask_ for further details, you just said "this is this, and that is that". No queries. And I don't complain about the MIDI implementation of the JP-6 because of your info...I complain about the MIDI implementation of the JP-6 anytime I can. For such a wonderful-sounding machine, _why_ does the control setup of it _suck_ so _badly_!?!? I'd give anything for an upgrade that just gave me the bender-send, not to mention some other things... D.A.C. Crowell Computer Music Project/School of Music University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign (dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu) Article 8916 of rec.music.makers.synth: Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell) Subject: Roland polysynths Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 20:36:45 GMT Message-ID: References: <21v568$2et@bronze.lcs.mit.edu> <1993Jul16.092404.8977@ulci20.unil.ch> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Organization: University of Illinois School of Music Lines: 23 In article <1993Jul16.092404.8977@ulci20.unil.ch> Jean-Damien Humair writes: >Model Date Architecture Polyphony Progr Rem >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >BIG ROLAND SYNTHS: > >Jupiter 4 ca.1978 VCO,VCF, 4 8 > VCA,2 EG > >Jupiter 8 ca.1981 2VCO, VCF, 8 64? split/layer > VCA, 2EG big sound > >Jupiter 6 ca.1984 A kind of JP 8 with MIDI + Key velocity No, no, _no_! The JP-6 is a six-voice unit, with some different programming capabilities than the JP-8. It is _not_ velocity-sensitive, nor does it have full MIDI capabilities. I own one, I oughta know. D.A.C. Crowell Computer Music Project/School of Music University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign (dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu) Article 13024 of rec.music.makers.synth: Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth Path: news.service.uci.edu!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ub!galileo.cc.rochester.edu!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!mdsp_ltd From: mdsp_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Pooch) Subject: Roland JX-8p help (given and needed) Message-ID: <1993Oct27.180538.21241@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: uhura.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 18:05:38 GMT Lines: 23 A shor while ago I bought a used Roland JX-8p. The first thing that I noticed was that the aftertouch was stiff to the point of unusablility. After an hour of mapping the aftertouch circut and figuring out what would work I placed a large trim pot (0-500k ohms) in place of resitor R8 on the circut board with the trim sliders for the poramento,aftertouch,edit,volume,etc. My impression is that this is not an uncommon problem so I hope that this helps some people. I do have one question though, I have to this point been unable to get a midi patch dump from this unit does anyone have any ideas of how I could get one? Any response would be apppreciated. Thank you for any help, Ezra Gold ezrg_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Marc D. Spencer, C.E. WRUR-FM | Technology is a way of organizing | | mdsp_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu | the universe so that man doesn't | | | have to experience it -Frisch |