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Subject: GUS Daily Digest V17 #1

GUS Daily Digest            Thu, 1 Dec 94  9:37 PST      Volume 17: Issue   1 

Today's Topics:
                       Advent Christmas program
          Can safely use Adaptec 1542B w/ GUS, Megaem, SBOS.
               Does "Rise of the Robots" work with GUS?
                        Flashback and Dune II
                             gppiano.pat
                  GUS Daily Digest V16 #30 (8 msgs)
                                 help
                help on how to get some games working.
                         Here we go again...
                             HMI drivers
                             Mail failure
                              New Games
                       New PC-box; hangin' GUS
                    Soundcard Reviews in PC World
                   UFO/XCOM, is it native or what?
                         WARCRAFT AND AIL 3.0

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 22:19:35 CST
From: cowles@hydra.convex.com (John Cowles)
Subject: Advent Christmas program

I have uploaded ADVENT.ZIP to epas. It is a program which
produces an Advent Calendar on your screen and has a different
Christmas Carol (midi) for each day of Advent. The zip file
includes a patchmanager '.pcf' file for playing the carols
on your GUS.

Enjoy!

John

-- 
     John Cowles        cowles@hydra.convex.com   CompuServe: 72074,451
                        Convex Computer Corp.  214 497 4375
                        3000 Waterview Pkwy
                        Richardson, Tx. 75080

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 13:43:26 -0600 (CST)
From: lance@mpd.tandem.com (Lance Hartmann)
Subject: Can safely use Adaptec 1542B w/ GUS, Megaem, SBOS.

Previously:

> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:03:12 GMT
> From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: GUS and Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller
> 
> >I have an Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller and a Ultrasound.  The 1542B
> >is my boot device, and, while the card has strappable I/O addresses,
> >the BIOS ROM is hard coded to use address 330.  This conflicts with
> >one of the address on the Ultrasound, and causes problems (Sound
> >Blaster emulation doesn't work.)
> 
> Is this right? Does a BIOS really use an IO address? I though that a
> BIOS was likely to occupy a block of high numbered addresses somewhere
> bwtween 640k and 1M. Or do I misunderstand - perhaps you mean that
> you can move the card away from 330, but then the BIOS refuses to
> use it? Perhaps Adaptec can supply a new BIOS ROM to plug in.
> 
> Anyway the problem is that 330 is the standard
> address for some Roland contraption that you are trying to emulate,
> so if you can't shift the SCSI card away from there, then you have
> then danger of attempts to access your SCSI devices being intercepted
> by the emulation program. Don't know about SBOS, but I thought the docs
> for megaem discussed this, and that there was some kind of switch so
> that it could attempt to distinguish between the uses of the same
> address. There were also dire warnings about danger to the data on
> your HD!


1)  Megaem has worked just fine cooperating with my Adaptec 1542B.
    Just remember to specify the whatever-flag (don't have my doc
    w/ me here).  I've had no problems whatsoever with this in the
    past, though I must admit that I haven't tried this with the
    latest versions of Megaem.  Fortunately, the few games I've
    purchased have native GUS support.

2)  SBOS (SoundBlaster emulation) has no I/O conflict problems with
    the default 1542B addresses.

3)  Adaptec does (at least they once did) offer an alternative ROM with
    a different base address.  I believe if you have access to an EPROM
    burner, you can even download the image from their BBS to make your own.
    Again, I didn't have to do this at all for Megaem support.

your mileage may, of course, vary.....
Lance Hartmann (lance@mpd.tandem.com)
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All opinions, viewpoints, etc. expressed herein are all mine -- not Tandem's.
============================================================================

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Date: 30 Nov 94 17:53:46 EST
From: Jonathan Clark <100410.3324@compuserve.com>
Subject: Does "Rise of the Robots" work with GUS?
Message-ID: <941130225346_100410.3324_BHG64-2@CompuServe.COM>

The header says all - Does "RotR" wirk with the GUS?

I'd like to know before I shell out!

Also - is the "Directors cut" any different to the basic game (except the price,
obviously!)

 -------------------------------
Jonny Clark - Belfast

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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 14:40:17 +0100
From: mogens beltoft <mbel92@control.auc.dk>
Subject: Flashback and Dune II

I'm not exactly satisfied with the sound in Flaskback (I'm using Megaem), so
could anyone please help me with the configuration, or other possibilities.

And when I read the glist it suggested me to find the AIL patch for Dune II ??
What is the filename and where do I find it, and what do I do??

                        ////
 mbel92@control.auc.dk (o o) Mogens Beltoft
-------------------oOO--(_)--OOo------------

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 16:14:04 -0700 (MST)
From: Ignatius Tam <tam@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca>
Subject: gppiano.pat

Hi guys,

i found a message in epas that someone need an upload of the grand piano
patch from the gus exp. cd.  i would upload it if it's distributable, 
but i've to make sure if i can then i would do it. 
pls mail me: tam@cs.ualberta.ca 

-iGnatius

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 13:57:01 EST
From: Phil Longstaff <phill@dnbf01.bram.cdx.mot.com>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V16 #30

GUS Server wrote:
> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 17:54:22 -0500
> From: Christian Brideau <brideau@revcan.ca>
> Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V16 #29
> Message-ID: <9411291754.aa12380@macdonald.revcan.ca>
> 
> Vince, you should REALLY do somthing about those idiots who post the
> entire digest again and again and again...  I didn't read it entirely 
> because it was getting on my nerves.  And with a 2400 bps modem, you
> can understand why.
> 
> Chris
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 10:54:01 GMT
> From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Reading data from a CD ROM
> 
> Wow! 180k of Digest including 7 (unless I lost count) copies of previous
> Digests. I think it's a record. Glad I don't subscribe to this on my
> dial-up account - can anyone with knowledge of mail headers arrange
> that these bounces are lost, rather than re-mailed - perhaps have the
> Digest sent out from a different address than the submission address?

I don't like that idea because it makes it more difficult to reply.  To
generate this, I just hit the 'r' key, deleted the parts I didn't need (that
is what the bozos^H^H^H^H^Hpeople who resubmit the whole digest need to do),
and typed this in.  Quite simple, really.

Phil
--
Phil Longstaff, Motorola ISG, Mississauga Ontario

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 16:43:13 -0500
From: GravisTech@aol.com
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V16 #30

>How do you connect the CD audio cable to the GUS if it (connector) has only 
>three plugs (after cover is removed from connector) which correspond to 
>right, ground, and left.
_________________________________________________
The >>Connectiosn on the GUS go as follows:
4 pin Left Gnd. Gnd. Right (Note: The two gnds are connected on the board)
3 pin >>Left Gnd. Right

You just need to make sure that your audio form the cd-rom is going to these
connectors on the appropriate pins, if you need a connector to accomplish
this..use a power connecter (extension) from a 3.5 floppy drive.

Gravistech@aol.com
Advanced Gravis Technology

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 15:58:25 CST
From: cowles@hydra.convex.com (John Cowles)
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V16 #30

Clark Brunt writes:
>> >I have an Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller and a Ultrasound.  The 1542B
>> >is my boot device, and, while the card has strappable I/O addresses,
>> >the BIOS ROM is hard coded to use address 330.  This conflicts with
>> >one of the address on the Ultrasound, and causes problems (Sound
>> >Blaster emulation doesn't work.)
>> 
>> Is this right? Does a BIOS really use an IO address? I though that a
>> BIOS was likely to occupy a block of high numbered addresses somewhere
>> bwtween 640k and 1M. Or do I misunderstand - perhaps you mean that
>> you can move the card away from 330, but then the BIOS refuses to
>> use it? Perhaps Adaptec can supply a new BIOS ROM to plug in.
>> 
>> Anyway the problem is that 330 is the standard
>> address for some Roland contraption that you are trying to emulate,
>> so if you can't shift the SCSI card away from there, then you have
>> then danger of attempts to access your SCSI devices being intercepted
>> by the emulation program. Don't know about SBOS, but I thought the docs
>> for megaem discussed this, and that there was some kind of switch so
>> that it could attempt to distinguish between the uses of the same
>> address. There were also dire warnings about danger to the data on
>> your HD!
>> 

 The 1542B uses 330 as it's i/o port. Unfortunately, that address is
hard-coded into the rom bios as well. Adaptec lets you download a
set of microcode with another address in the bios, you you have to burn
your own eproms to use it. Alternativly, you can get the microcode
already loaded into an eprom from them (for $$$). OR, you can upgrade
to the 1542C, which has a programmable i/o port, OR you can do what I I
do, and change the MPU-401 emulation stuff to address 310. I have no
problem with any of the GUS functions using this.

John
-- 
     John Cowles        cowles@hydra.convex.com   CompuServe: 72074,451
                        Convex Computer Corp.  214 497 4375
                        3000 Waterview Pkwy
                        Richardson, Tx. 75080

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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 01:12:49 -0330
From: Aaron Cameron <acameron@europa.cs.mun.ca>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V16 #30

> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:23:06 GMT
> From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: GUS MAX and Gateway 2000
> 
> >I am almost sure that I am going to get a Gateway 2000 P4D-66, the 
> >regular desktop (that is, non-tower) system.  But before I do, I have two 
> >questions:
> >1) Will my GUS MAX fit?
> >2) Is the double speed CD-ROM it comes with compatible with the GUS MAX?
> 
> The P4D-66 claims to have 4 ISA slots (don't know whether 8/16 bit).
> The old GUS was a large card - nearly full length - but possibly later
> models are smaller. In any case, surely there must be several slots in

Nope.  The GUS is the longest card I've ever seen, right up to the 
current versions.  I have a GUSMAX, and it makes even my 32bit VLB video 
card look like a halfsize modem card.  I have 5 ISA and 3 VLB slots, and 
the GUS will only fit into 2 out of the lot, as the architecture of my MB 
ain't the best.  Still, if you have a standard layout MB, you _SHOULD_ be
able to squeeze the GUS in with a little patience, a shoehorn, and a little 
rearrangement of your current card layout.  

AC

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Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 02:51:29 +1000 (GMT+1000)
From: Lee Christensen <ar303921@mailbox.uq.oz.au>
Subject: help

Help


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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 20:29:54 GMT
From: nguyen (NGUYEN Francois                   )
Subject: help on how to get some games working.

i need help on getting 
wc3 demo 
myst (the demo works ok, not the commercial version)
megarace
under a killing moon demo cd

to work with the gus max.

Thanx

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Date: 30 Nov 94 17:37:08 EST
From: Jonathan Clark <100410.3324@compuserve.com>
Subject: Here we go again...
Message-ID: <941130223707_100410.3324_BHG63-1@CompuServe.COM>

Oh look! another HUGE edition of the digest!

And I didn't read it. Wanna know why?

'cos I didn't want to the spend $3.95 Compuserve were charging just to download
a mail message!

Any chance of a pocket-size summary of yesterdays digest?!

 -------------------------------
Jonny Clark - Belfast

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 16:47:27 -0500
From: GravisTech@aol.com
Subject: Re: HMI drivers

>> My understanding is that the various HMI drivers for the >>various
supported sound cards and 'compiled' into the .386 >>files, but also somehow
compiled into the games also.  >>Therefore, it's not possible to just copy
around HMI*.386 >>files from game-to-game to pick up the working GUS ones.
>>Is this true?
This is true, the HMI drivers hav eot be incorporated (compiled into the game
by  the manufacturer) the are not like a patch to be inserted into the
drectory etc. So unless they use them when compiling the game.. you and I are
stuck with out the awesome gus sounds in the game.

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 16:56 EST
From: Adminstrator <AIG/GRANITE1/POSTMASTER%AIG@mcimail.com>
Subject: Mail failure

FROM: Adminstrator
TO: GUS Daily Digest                                           DATE: 11-30-94
                                                               TIME: 16:50
SUBJECT: Mail failure
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

User mail received addressed to the following unknown addresses:
  aig/granite1/fcass

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MCI Mail date/time: Wed Nov 30, 1994  1:26 pm  EST
  Source date/time: Wed Nov 30 09:37:05 PST 1994
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GUS Daily Digest            Wed, 30 Nov 94  9:37 PST     Volume 16: Issue  30

Today's Topics:
                            AU Sound file
                          CD Audio connector
                          gus+soundman wave?
                GUS and Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller
                      GUS and KQ7 under Win 3.1
                       GUS Daily Digest V16 #29
                    GUS drivers for Windows NT3.5
                       GUS MAX and Gateway 2000
                             HMI Drivers
                    Please gives us Warcraft-patch
                      Reading data from a CD ROM
                    Soundcard Reviews in PC World
                              Theme Park
                        Windows mixer problem
                      Windows NT drivers for GUS

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

 ---------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 30 Nov 94 06:15:55 EST
From: Jon Grieve <100102.145@compuserve.com>
Subject: AU Sound file
Message-ID: <941130111554_100102.145_EHK67-3@CompuServe.COM>

With regard to Nick Cook's question 'What format is an AU file?'; To read,
play
and convert .AU files under Windows, and to allow Mosaic to download and
handle
then correctly, you can get WHAM for Windows, which will read almost all sound
file types, or Cool Waveform Editor which handles even more.  Then in the
Mosaic
INI file, set the 'association' for .AU to either of these sound players, so
that once downloaded, the audio file appears in the correct player.  Simple.

Hope this helps,
Jon Grieve

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:07:37 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: CD Audio connector

>How do you connect the CD audio cable to the GUS if it (connector) has only
>three plugs (after cover is removed from connector) which correspond to
>right, ground, and left.

You just need to cobble something together, or else get a different
cable. Whichever of your 3 wires is ground wants to be connected to
*both* the middle pins on the GUS, so you need to split it. Perhaps
the GUS pins are connected on the board, so connecting to just one
of them would do, but I don't know. It's common for these cables
to have 3 wires at the CD end, but 4 at the GUS.

 -----------------------------

Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 22:29:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Jason G Johnson <jgjohn01@homer.louisville.edu>
Subject: gus+soundman wave?

I am getting a gus soon and I want to know if the gus and a logitech soundman
wave can get along in one box. I would like to keep the soundman so I have a
soundblaster card and gmidi (ok i know the patches suck) with some stubbern
games. If it matters my smw is set up at port 220 irq 5 for sb and 330 irq2
for gmidi, anything I should change?

Btw has anyone got strike commander to work with gus
doing midi(mega-em) and a sound blaster taking the audio??


Thanks,

Jason

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:03:12 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: GUS and Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller

>I have an Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller and a Ultrasound.  The 1542B
>is my boot device, and, while the card has strappable I/O addresses,
>the BIOS ROM is hard coded to use address 330.  This conflicts with
>one of the address on the Ultrasound, and causes problems (Sound
>Blaster emulation doesn't work.)

Is this right? Does a BIOS really use an IO address? I though that a
BIOS was likely to occupy a block of high numbered addresses somewhere
bwtween 640k and 1M. Or do I misunderstand - perhaps you mean that
you can move the card away from 330, but then the BIOS refuses to
use it? Perhaps Adaptec can supply a new BIOS ROM to plug in.

Anyway the problem is that 330 is the standard
address for some Roland contraption that you are trying to emulate,
so if you can't shift the SCSI card away from there, then you have
then danger of attempts to access your SCSI devices being intercepted
by the emulation program. Don't know about SBOS, but I thought the docs
for megaem discussed this, and that there was some kind of switch so
that it could attempt to distinguish between the uses of the same
address. There were also dire warnings about danger to the data on
your HD!

 -----------------------------

Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 17:42:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Hank Leukart <hleukart@shell.portal.com>
Subject: GUS and KQ7 under Win 3.1
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941129174206.10463B-100000@jobe.shell.portal.com>

	Anyone get KQ7 and the GUS working under Windows?  All the TEST
hardware music works fine, but it won't play in the actual game.
-Hank

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 17:54:22 -0500
From: Christian Brideau <brideau@revcan.ca>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V16 #29
Message-ID: <9411291754.aa12380@macdonald.revcan.ca>

Vince, you should REALLY do somthing about those idiots who post the
entire digest again and again and again...  I didn't read it entirely
because it was getting on my nerves.  And with a 2400 bps modem, you
can understand why.

Chris

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 09:26:29 EDT
From: "Fisher.G" <Fisher.G@as02.bull.oz.au>
Subject: GUS drivers for Windows NT3.5

Hi,
Are there any GUS drivers available for Windows NT3.5 ? If so, how would I
obtain them ?

Greg
(Melbourne - Victoria - Australia)

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:23:06 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: GUS MAX and Gateway 2000

>I am almost sure that I am going to get a Gateway 2000 P4D-66, the
>regular desktop (that is, non-tower) system.  But before I do, I have two
>questions:
>1) Will my GUS MAX fit?
>2) Is the double speed CD-ROM it comes with compatible with the GUS MAX?

The P4D-66 claims to have 4 ISA slots (don't know whether 8/16 bit).
The old GUS was a large card - nearly full length - but possibly later
models are smaller. In any case, surely there must be several slots in
there which would accomodate it. Verify with Gateway before you buy.

Given that the CD is already in the computer, it must have it's own
interface card of some sort, or else be connected to a CD interface on
the motherboard. If you are thinking of ditching this
interface and connecting the drive to the GUS-MAX CD interface, then you
had better find out what model of CD it is. But there is *NO BENEFIT*
to doing this other than saving a slot in the machine. The only
connection you need between a CD drive and the GUS is an audio cable
from the back of the drive to the CD Audio pins on the GUS, and even
this isn't needed unless you intend to play CDs with audio tracks on
them (for example MicroSoft Beethoven etc. are mainly audio tracks,
while Encarta has no audio tracks at all - all its sounds are WAV
files or similar).

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Date: 30 Nov 94 06:15:53 EST
From: Jon Grieve <100102.145@compuserve.com>
Subject: HMI Drivers
Message-ID: <941130111552_100102.145_EHK67-2@CompuServe.COM>

Ok, so I'm probably a little behind the times here.  Am I right in thinking
that
we - the humble GUS users - can't update HMI drivers ourselves?  My
understanding is that the various HMI drivers for the various supported sound
cards and 'compiled' into the .386 files, but also somehow compiled into the
games also.  Therefore, it's not possible to just copy around HMI*.386 files
from game-to-game to pick up the working GUS ones.

Is this true?  Are we at the mercy of the games companies to ship updated HMI
drivers sets when/if Gravis, for example, update their code?  There's so many
games coming out that use the HMI sets, and so many that didn't quite get the
Gravis drivers in.  Also, as usual, most demo's just have SB support to save
space.  It'd be nice to just whack in the HMI*.386 file set from a working
game,
and provide native GUS support to all these applications.

Just my thoughts.

Jon Grieve

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 94 23:20:58 MET
From: Broderdue <iqivar@hp1.cbs.dk>
Subject: Please gives us Warcraft-patch

Header says it all... Where is these rumoured AIL 3.0 drivers ??

	\////
	|. .|
	( - )   Broderdue

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 10:54:01 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Reading data from a CD ROM

Wow! 180k of Digest including 7 (unless I lost count) copies of previous
Digests. I think it's a record. Glad I don't subscribe to this on my
dial-up account - can anyone with knowledge of mail headers arrange
that these bounces are lost, rather than re-mailed - perhaps have the
Digest sent out from a different address than the submission address?

Quite a bit lately about reading data direct from CD. Certainly there
is potential to take a sample from a CD and make it into a patch. Not
that making good patches is easy, even if you have a good sample.
The trouble is that is seems only some drives support this. Is there
any evidence of any programs that will read from a SCSI drive - in
particular a Tosh 4101 like I have?

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 13:07:44 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christopher M. DiPierro" <cdipierr@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Soundcard Reviews in PC World

I was just wondering if anyone else saw the soundcard reviews in PC
World's December 1994 issue.  They review the GUS Max, along with the
AWE32 and a few others.  While the review is perhaps one of the better
comparisons I've seen done in a magazine to date, I think they brushed
past some key issues.

First of all, they seem to use ROM based samples (used on certain cards)
and disk based RAM designs (like the GUS's) almost interchangably.  This
doesn't fully show the expandibility of the GUS and other cards based on
the same design.

Second, they mentioned briefly the DSP which they say increases the
card's speed.  However, I think they spent too little time on it.
Nowhere is it noted that the GUS (and perhaps other cards) use as little
as 3% CPU time for high quality sound, and that other cards can use much
more.  Also related to this, the little chart they have of features fails
to mention which cards support compression (and what types).  Also,
although unrelated to the DSP, but left off the chart is the maximum RAM
each card is expandable to.

Finally, although they listed signal-to-noise ratios for all of the
cards, it would have been nice for them to show the roll-off charts for
all the boards, not just the Turtle Beach (best in this category) and the
Toptek (worst in this category).

Well, like I said, the review was overall good, but somewhat lacking in
my opinion...anyone else care to comment?

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Chris DiPierro: cdipierr@wam.umd.edu   | Major(s): CS && ??ASTR??
University of Maryland at College Park | CS && Space == cool == -270 C
Gravis Ultrasound (GUS) FAQ Maintainer | Current GUS FAQ is: v2.02 [94/11/16]
To quote IBM: "Think"                  | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~cdipierr/
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 17:57:04 +0100
From: STIAN HOELL <STIANH@sofus.hiof.no>
Subject: Theme Park

Anybody got a patch for the GUS to this great game? I can't seem to
get it to work. I even picked out my GUS here the other day, just to
listen how it yelled with my old SB 1.5. And it wasn't that bad
actually. So with the GUS it must be great. It's the DOS/4GW that
makes it all so comlicated. The machine keeps reseting everytime I
try to run either SBOS or MEGAEM. I'm going crazy. Please help.

STiAN


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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 11:08:07 EST
From: amix@VFL.Paramax.COM
Subject: Windows mixer problem

I think this problem has been discussed before, but I can't
find anyting about it.  When windows starts up, the left
volume is correct, but the right channel is at zero.
No matter how I save the setting in the mixer or edit
ini files or what ever, when windows starts, the right
volume is all the way down.  What do I do to fix this?

-Andy

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Date: 30 Nov 94 06:15:57 EST
From: Jon Grieve <100102.145@compuserve.com>
Subject: Windows NT drivers for GUS
Message-ID: <941130111557_100102.145_EHK67-4@CompuServe.COM>

Jari Kivela wrote:
>> Once more: there is no Win NT drivers for GUS, and there probably never
>> will be, unless someone is going to make them him/herself.

About a month ago on Compu$erve, a group of NT developers offered to write NT
drivers for Gravis.  I can't remember whether Gravis took them up on their
offer, but I expect they started to discuss via private e-Mail.  Perhaps
Gravis
could comment on this.  I expect they're keeping quiet, as no sooner as they
admit "There will be NT drivers", people will start to hastle them for dates
and
they'll get just as - if not more - unpopular than when they said they weren't
going to do any at all.  It's all very OS/2, don't you think.

Jon

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 94 21:06:36 +0100
From: jpdgreve@vub.ac.be (De Greve Jean-Pierre)

Hi ... I'm experiencing trouble with WarCraft from Blizzard Entertainment :
When I choose MegaEm in General Midi & SoundBlaster, I get no
proper sound, and the general midi sounds instruments when they don't
have to be sounded (during gameplay, cymbals, gunshots...).
SBOS works fine, but offcourse GM would be better.
Each of the MDI & DIG files show as first characters 'AIL3MDI' or 'AIL3DIG'.
Substituting the drivers with the miles drivers doesn't work, since the game
uses DOS4GW extender.
A dump of the \WAR\DRIVERS\ directory :

WARCRAFT AD        2,682 11-23-94   4:03a
WARCRAFT OPL       2,682 11-23-94   4:03a
SBPRO    DIG       2,683 11-23-94   4:03a
SBLASTER MDI      14,956 11-23-94   4:03a
ADLIB    MDI      14,906 11-23-94   4:03a
ADLIBG   MDI      16,297 11-23-94   4:03a
PAS      MDI      15,345 11-23-94   4:03a
PASPLUS  MDI      16,378 11-23-94   4:03a
SBPRO1   MDI      15,295 11-23-94   4:03a
SBPRO2   MDI      16,356 11-23-94   4:03a
SBLASTER DIG       2,834 11-23-94   4:03a
SBAWE32  MDI      32,694 11-23-94   4:03a
SB16     DIG       2,756 11-23-94   4:03a
GF166    COM       5,493 11-12-93   6:32p
GF1DIGI  ADV       5,248 08-14-93   6:40a
GF1MIDI  ADV      10,816 08-14-93   6:40a
GF1DIGI  DIG       5,248 08-14-93   6:40a
GF1MIDI  MDI      10,816 08-14-93   6:40a

I hope anyone can help ...

Sincerely,

Jean-Pierre.

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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 16:54:43 +1100 (EST)
From: Anthony Thompson <musicman@werple.apana.org.au>
Subject: New Games

I just picked up some new CD games: 

Magic Carpet - NO GUS Support
Relentless -Little Big Adventure  -  GUS native
Ecstatica   -  Gus Native

All are very good games. As a few  people have already pointed  out Magic 
Carpet doesnt have  GUS support its  a shame as its excellent (you can 
play it in 3D -glasses supplied).

If you are doing  some christmas software shopping these three a worth 
every cent!

Anthony

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:49:32 -0600 (CST)
From: Jarrod Loewen <jloewen@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: New PC-box; hangin' GUS

Hey all!
	I hope someone can help me, as I've tried everything I can think of
to resolve this myself.  The problem is that my gus now hangs occasionally in
my new computer.  I've got a rev. 3.7 card w/ 1meg ram and running the 3.56
install disks.  Playmidi & iplay are guarenteed to hang almost immediately,
Doom2 hangs occasionally while all gravis windows apps run perfectly fine.  
I don't think I've hung the machine running any other games.

	I've tried every conceivable port/irq/dma configuration, I've tried
both slots the gus' length is restricted to (one vlb, one isa), I've sacrificed
small animals and danced nekid in the moonlight....  nothing has made any 
impact.

	My machine is a 486dx2-66 w/ 8 megs ram.  UMC8498F & UMC8496F chipset
and Phoenix bios.  Cirrus logic vlb video card w/ 1meg, UMC PT-626 vlb ide i/o
card and usr sportster14.4 all share the box with my gus.  Hard drive is a 
fujitsu and I've got a single generic 3.5" drive.

	I'd be most grateful is someone would offer me a clue.

thanks,
--jj


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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 17:02:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Stephen Thomas Brindle <sbrindle@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Soundcard Reviews in PC World

> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 13:07:44 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Christopher M. DiPierro" <cdipierr@wam.umd.edu>
> Subject: Soundcard Reviews in PC World
> 
> I was just wondering if anyone else saw the soundcard reviews in PC 
> World's December 1994 issue.  They review the GUS Max, along with the 
> AWE32 and a few others.  While the review is perhaps one of the better 
> comparisons I've seen done in a magazine to date, I think they brushed 
> past some key issues.  
> 
> First of all, they seem to use ROM based samples (used on certain cards) 
> and disk based RAM designs (like the GUS's) almost interchangably.  This 
> doesn't fully show the expandibility of the GUS and other cards based on 
> the same design.  
> 
> Second, they mentioned briefly the DSP which they say increases the 
> card's speed.  However, I think they spent too little time on it.  
> Nowhere is it noted that the GUS (and perhaps other cards) use as little 
> as 3% CPU time for high quality sound, and that other cards can use much 
> more.  Also related to this, the little chart they have of features fails 
> to mention which cards support compression (and what types).  Also, 
> although unrelated to the DSP, but left off the chart is the maximum RAM 
> each card is expandable to.
> 
> Finally, although they listed signal-to-noise ratios for all of the 
> cards, it would have been nice for them to show the roll-off charts for 
> all the boards, not just the Turtle Beach (best in this category) and the 
> Toptek (worst in this category).
> 
> Well, like I said, the review was overall good, but somewhat lacking in 
> my opinion...anyone else care to comment?

You made some good points.  I think you should write to PC World and 
point them out.

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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 14:08:31 +0200 (EET)
From: Otto T Hyvarinen <ohyvarin@cc.helsinki.fi>
Subject: UFO/XCOM, is it native or what?

I think no one has asked this before:
UFO from MicroProse should have native GUS sounds, but if we =
choose them
the game locks up every time the ground combat begins. So we =
can watch
the intro and shoot one ufo down, but when we send men to the=
 crash site
only mouse pointer appears and the machine hangs. Actually yo=
u cannot
even run ultrinit.exe after booting or the game hangs.

We have tried this on my friend's machine and mine.

PS I seem to have lost the G-list address. Please e-mail. Tha=
nks.
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" Miehen mitta miehen varsi
  ei ole miehen mielt=E4 p=E4=E4ss=E4              << Otto Hy=
v=E4rinen,
  miel on viety, p=E4=E4 j=E4tetty                  ohyvarin@=
kruuna.helsinki.fi >>=20
  aivot otsasta otettu. "

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 21:29:02 -0500
From: AdvGravis@aol.com
Subject: Re: WARCRAFT AND AIL 3.0

Just to give you all an update regarding AIL 3.0....

We will release the drivers in a couple of weeks. Although we have working
drivers that work fine with Warcraft and the PGA GOLF from EA, we are
modifying the drivers so that you will not have to use UltraMID. Our
programming team is aware that you are waiting, and is hard at work on it.
The reason we are waiting is so that only one version of the driver is
released. We want to avoid releasing various versions (or patches) and have
one complete system for ya.

Bryan

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