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GUS Musician's Digest       Tue, 31 Jan 95 13:48 PST     Volume 12: Issue  25 

Today's Topics:
                   Good baroque/classical patches?
                             Piano Patch

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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 16:23:43 TZ
From: Daryl James <darylj@microsoft.com>
Subject: Good baroque/classical patches?

I downloaded a bunch of reasonably good patches on EPAS some time ago 
but I cant seem to locate them again.
The Elysium patch collection has a reasonable clarinet, but the oboe 
and bassoon are pretty ordinary and I haven't
seen any really good brass for a while.

I have seen a few GUSsers submit some nice classical midi arrangements, 
but the modern pianos, clarinets and guitars
dont do them the justice they deserve.
How 'bout some patches of original instruments- natural trumpets, full 
range of recorders(sopranino, descant, treble,bass), violas, viola da 
gamba, theorbo, lute, harpsichords, organs, piano forte etc...

Can someone point me to where I might get some decent patches of these 
instruments?

-Daryl James, darylj@microsoft.com

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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 19:01:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Piano Patch

George <gmontem@mercury.sfsu.edu> wrote:

> >It works fine for me in the Windows patch utility.  I have a 1 meg Max.
> >It's not particularly impressive as piano patches go.  The lowest price
> >Yamaha digital piano kills it.
> 
> Ah, and how much does this digital piano cost?  

Around $500 and you get a keyboard, stereo amp, two speakers, midi i/o,
and a few nicely done patches for two pianos, vibes, and others.

> ...Hey, you're comparing a 
> sound card with a digital piano that has far bigger samples.  

I'm not certain the patches are bigger.  But they are layered for
velocity and either stereo or spatially enhanced.  And they don't have
to live in a noisy PC backplane.

I don't doubt that we could have much better patches if we had the likes
of Roland or Yamaha building them.  So far, the musician community has
pretty much ignored the GUS.

> As far as the 
> patch is concerned, you can improve it by modifying the envelopes a bit and 
> modifying the MIDI file so far every track that uses the piano patch, you 
> use two tracks, one panned to the left (0) and one panned to the right
> (127).

Why not post the modified patch?  We'd probably all appreciate it.


Len Moskowitz
Core Sound
moskowit@panix.com

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