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GUS Musician's Digest       Thu, 9 Feb 95 12:05 PST      Volume 12: Issue  33 

Today's Topics:
                    _No_ chorus and reverb on GUS.
             Chorus/Reverb...let me get this straight...
                     GUS, MIDI mapper & my synth?
                    GUS Musician's Digest V12 #32
                         HELP FINDING A LOOP
                           MIDI cable magic
                    Reverb and Chorus with the GUS

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 18:30:39 -0500 (EST)
From: "Matthew M. Nordan @ 137" <mnordan@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
Subject: _No_ chorus and reverb on GUS.

The GUS cannot produce chorus and/or reverb, no matter what Midisoft 
product one uses.  The Roland SCC-1, RAP-10, etc. have an onboard effects 
processor that is responsible for the chorus and reverb.  The GUS has no 
such effects processor.  You'll need an external unit.

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Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 13:41:06 -0600 (MDT)
From: Alfred Falk 450-5185 <FALK@ARC.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: Chorus/Reverb...let me get this straight...

> Okay...I see that chorus and reverb are disabled for the version of 
> Recording Session given out with the GUS.
>
> BUT, if I did buy the full-blown version...could I then USE the chorus and 
> reverb options which would then be there?
>
> One person wrote on the last digest that the chorus and reverb data entry 
> parameters wouldn't work with the GUS, only other Roland devices.  Another 
> person wrote that I should purchase MidiSoft Recording Session and that 
> chorus and reverb would be useable.

I don't know which is right, but I can tell you that you would waste your
money buying MidiSoft Recording _Session_.  The version from Gravis is it,
nothing missing or disabled.  I think the software you might want is
MidiSoft Recording _Studio_ (or something like that).

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Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 16:52:04 -0500 (EST)
From: GGPTLCB@grove.iup.edu
Subject: GUS, MIDI mapper & my synth?

O.K. If I remember correctly (and I do) when I had my SB compat. FORTE16 card
I was able to use sound from my synth (Korg Poly-800II but that really doesn't
matter). Now with the GUS I can't seem to send sounds via MIDI. Anyone figure
this one out. I've tried using the MIDI mapper but it didn't help. (I have a
486sx25 8M cd-rom GUSMAX etc. etc. if that helps at all.
P.S. Craige, I haven't cheched out UPL?.zip yet but thanks for the tip.
				-Scott McGrath ggptlcb@grove.iup.edu

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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 14:58:32 +0800 (WST)
From: Adam Soudure <gillius@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Re: GUS Musician's Digest V12 #32

> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 14:43:25 -0800 (PST)
> From: Emory Menefee <em@crl.com>
> Subject: Csound
> 
> Has anybody been able to get csound (a freeware composing program) to 
> work with the GUS, and if so would you please outline what you did?
> 
> Thanks, Emory Menefee
> 
> ------------------------------
I got it to work...

I simply ran the .sco and .orc files through the processor and played
the results using playfile. I can't remember the exact option off the
top of my head, but you need to tell csound to generate a .wav file...

Adam

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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 95 09:30:29 CET
From: vtosta@VNET.IBM.COM
Subject: HELP FINDING A LOOP

Hello,

This question is not strictly GUS-related but is more general.

I used an excellent sampling CD and directly read 3 seconds of viola C4
into a WAV file.
The sound is excellent when I play the WAV.
To set the loop points I use WAVE SE and that's where my problems start.
Although I pay attention to the valleys and peaks of the wave, and use
WAVE SE's good find functions to search for amplitude matches or zero
amplitudes I am up to now not able to avoid clicking.
I noticed that the sample has actually many waves due to the nature of the
recorded instrument and the sound of the click suggests that there must
still be a sudden change in the amplitude of one of low frequency waves.
Do you have any idea how to set loop points if the sample has many waves
of different frequencies ? I could imagine there must be a program out there
that analyzes a WAV and makes proper suggestions.

Kind regards,
Volker

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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 00:05:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Harry C Pulley <hpulley@uoguelph.ca>
Subject: Re: MIDI cable magic

I am using my Kawai keyboard now with the MIDI cable from the SBPro MIDI 
Kit.  Your SB cable will probably work fine.  I sequence under Windows 
using Recording Session and it works quite well (for an amateur like me 
anyways; if you're a pro then you may want a more powerful piece of 
software).

Harry

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 18:10:07 -0500 (EST)
From: apervazo@sas.upenn.edu (Andrian Pervazov)
Subject: Re: Reverb and Chorus with the GUS

The GUS doesn't have built in digital effects - that means that even if 
you have a sequencer that supports these features (Powertracks comess to 
mind) you won't be able to use them. 

The Chorus and Reverb are part of Roland's GS standart. But it's not true 
that these controllers work only with Roland devices - I have a Korg 
05r/w module that has multiple digital effects and I'm able to control 
chorus and reverb via MIDI from the mixer of Powertracks.

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Music Department, University of Pennsylvania  
Internet: apervazo@mail.sas.upenn.edu         Phone: 215-732-2053 
Postscript scores at ftp://ftp.gmd.de/music/scores/pervazov

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