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GUS Musician's Digest       Wed, 12 Oct 94 12:15 PST     Volume 9: Issue   5  

Today's Topics:
     A less interesting problem with the new drivers from Gravis
                    CD ROM daughterboard? (2 msgs)
                 GUS Musician's Digest V9 #4 (2 msgs)
         Interesting problem with the new drivers from Gravis
                            MPB082.ZIP ???
              Overwhelming response to Angst post . . .

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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 16:17:39 EDT
From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering  11-Oct-1994 1617" <fisher@skylab.enet.dec.com>
Subject: A less interesting problem with the new drivers from Gravis

Might as well bring this up here, even though it has been mentioned on 
comp.sys....

Once I finally got the GUS043 driver installed, I noticed the now-famous 
"beep" sound at the end of "Ta-da" when Windows starts up.  I've not noticed 
it anywhere else.  However, I now do notice some note dropouts.  I think it 
may actually be some notes not starting.

Try playing the Mozart Clarinet Concerto which is in Compuserve's MIDI forum, 
for example.  (You'll also notice if you play the solo part as both organ and 
as a clarinet that the clarinet patch is still not very good.  I'm talking 
about intonation as much as anything here.)

Burns

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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 16:07:03 EDT
From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering  11-Oct-1994 1607" <fisher@skylab.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: CD ROM daughterboard?

>I am considering adding a CD ROM player to my computer. Most of the
>offerings I've seen in shop include an interface card for the CD ROM
>player. I also own a GUS. Is there a reason to buy a daughterbord
>CD ROM interface for the GUS instead of using an interface that comes
>with a CD ROM player, e.g., because of availability of IRQ's or
>DMA channels? Any comments appreciated,

There are only a few reasons you might want to do this (in order of 
decreasing importance):

1)  You don't have enough slots in your computer

2)  It is cheaper (i.e. you have to pay more to buy the interface than you
do to buy the daughterboard, or you have a GUS MAX or another card that has 
the CD interface built in with no extra cost.

3)  You don't want to bother fiddling with finding an audio cable to connect 
the CD out to the sound card in.

There are no savings in IRQs or anything.

Burns

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 10:27:09 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: CD ROM daughterboard?

>Is there a reason to buy a daughterbord
>CD ROM interface for the GUS instead of using an interface that comes
>with a CD ROM player, e.g., because of availability of IRQ's or
>DMA channels?

Not very music-related, but the general Digest is too long to read!
I see very little benefit in the daughterboard - the only one is that
it saves a slot (assuming that it does not foul a card in the adjacent
slot). It is no more or less likely to use IRQs and DMAs than a separate
card, and in the case of a SCSI interface, is likely to be unsuitable
for chaining fast hard disks as well as the CD-drive. Also, it obviously
cannot be used without a GUS. The audio signal will still have to be led
from the CD to the GUS via a separate cable.

To the person getting no CD sound from their GUS: Old GUS do not have
mixer control over CD-audio-in (always on). Is your cable wired
correctly? I seem to remember that the 4 GUS pins go LGGR (getting
L and R correct is left as an exercise!).

Clarke Brunt

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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 15:20:23 -0500 (EST)
From: efinkler@sun1.iusb.indiana.edu (Big Daddy Ed)
Subject: Re: GUS Musician's Digest V9 #4

> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 10:32:22 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Matthew M. Nordan @ 137" <mnordan@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
> Subject: Interested in hearing the GUS is musical action?
> 
> Hi there.  I'm an industrial musician here in New Haven, CT; my recording 
> project is called Angst.  Last March i put out a collection of songs on 
> my ittybittyunderground record label, 137 Records.  At the time i had no 
> 16-bit DB and limited recording equipment.  I am now working on recording 
> a new album in 16-bit glory with phat effect processors and such.
> 
> If you're interested in getting a copy of Angst's _Strain_ (the project 
> released last semester), email 137.records@yale.edu for our info file.  
> Angst's music is a good example of how the GUS can be used as a backbone 
> for electronic music, and it's the only GUS-centric underground release i 
> know of.

I'll be putting a track completely created on a 1meg GUS on the Arts Industria 
"The Art Of Brutality" CD comp.  The song is called "Rip", and is pulled from 
over an hour's worth of material I've created for my solo project (Bubblegum 
Crisis).  The only other instrument I use is a DR-660 drum machine.
-Ed Finkler
Arts Industria
efinkler@sun1.iusb.indiana.edu

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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 15:23:09 -0700 (MST)
From: "Shawn T. Rutledge" <rutledge@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu>
Subject: Re: GUS Musician's Digest V9 #4

> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 09:24:06 +0100 (MET)
> From: tgakem@chem.tue.nl
> Subject: Memory on GUS
> 
> > From: Emory Menefee <em@crl.com>
> > Subject: RAM limitations; music scanning software
> > 
> > 2. What would happen if one were to extend the DRAM capacity of the 
> > existing GUS by either physical expansion of slots, or putting in DRAMs 
> > larger than those specified?
> 
> The real memory limitation is in the GF1 chip, that only addresses
> 1 MB. The best thing that could happen if you somehow "connected"
> more RAM is that parts of the memory would be physically represented
> in more than one chip :)

Well, there's always the ole bank switching technique - but that would require
a change to the program :-(.   BTW, the program (ie, firmware) is stored
in an external ROM, right?  Or is it onboard the GF1?  It would seem
not too farfetched for someone to hack a different version of the 
firmware and implement some nifty new stuff like using PC ram to emulate
GUS ram or doing that bank switching thing, etc.

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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 16:13:57 EDT
From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering  11-Oct-1994 1614" <fisher@skylab.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Interesting problem with the new drivers from Gravis

Hi and thanks for resurrecting the digest, Vince!

A few weeks ago, I tried to install GUS0043 the updated GUS driver.  I had a 
problem which is apparently common:  the system whined that there was already 
a driver installed (even though I thought I had uninstalled it).  I was 
pressed for time and everything seemed to work, so I forgot about it for a 
couple weeks.

This weekend, I noticed that my floppies were working find from DOS, but were 
total trash from Windows (or from a DOS shell under windows).  If I tried to 
read a floppy, the directory was junk.  If I tried to write, not only did the 
write fail, but it also trashed the directory so I could not read it even in 
DOS.

I finally decided I had a bad controller, and resigned myself to replacing my 
old moldy RLL disks with IDE (to get a new controller), but then the next 
day, I remembered the GUS driver.  I fixed it up (I guess I had uninstalled 
only the MIDI part and not the WAV part??) and BOOM!  the floppy problem was 
fixed too.


Weird, huh?  I only relate this to save other people trouble if they have the 
same problem.

Burns

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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 15:37:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: al2032@csc.albany.edu
Subject: MPB082.ZIP ???

 ..some time ago i jotted a note to myself to get /submit/mpb082.zip
but now i can't find it, don't remember what it's supposed to be, and
don't know if it's been superceded by an update...can anyone help me
out on this one???  ...thanks...
					-allen

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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:03:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Matthew M. Nordan @ 137" <mnordan@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
Subject: Overwhelming response to Angst post . . .

Geez, i got close to twenty requests for 137 info today.  I didn't 
realize that the GUS music-making community had that kind of interest.  
Thanks . . . someone asked if the releases are available on CD; it's only 
on cassette (that bit of info isn't in the file.)

Once again the address is 137.records@yale.edu

      ]\/[atthew ]\/[. ]\[ordan  []. .[]  Support underground music!  Email
                                 [][|][]  for information about 137 Records.
   mnordan@minerva.cis.yale.edu  [] V []
        matthew.nordan@yale.edu  []   []  Yawheh, Yeshua, Elohim, forever

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