From mailserv@dsd.es.com Sun Nov 15 03:28:44 1992
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 02:10:02 MST
From: Ultrasound Digest Owner <ultrasound-owner@dsd.es.com>
Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V1 #20
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Ultrasound Daily Digest     Sun, 15 Nov 92       Volume 1 : Issue  20 

Today's Topics:
                    Got my GUS/Questions/Comments
                         GUS for salecat txt
                           I need help!!!!
                   More questions on GUS FOR MUSIC
                 Problems with Kbmidi and Midimapper
                              Telemart?
                    Ultrasound Daily Digest V1 #19

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 8:57:47 PST
From: aktang@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (I should be studying)
Message-Id: <9211141657.AA21862@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU>
Subject: Got my GUS/Questions/Comments
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Well, I finally got my GUS from EA yesterday.  Ordered it August 21.
It's now sitting in my computer coexisting nicely with an MPU-401
MIDI card driving my Roland.  The sound quality is excellent.  Most
patches come out as good as, if not better than the Roland.
(Especially the piano).  I can have both my Roland and GUS playing
at the same time in Windows, thus having the ability to choose the
best sounding synth for each channel.  Not bad.

Anyway, I have a few questions, which has been asked before I'm sure
(Sorry).  I assume when playmidi gives a 
"load patch failed <path name> - 7"
It means that it ran out of memory on the card?

Why doesn't the "-p" (ignore all errors.  Play whatever will fit in
memory) option for playmidi work?  (It still comes out with the same
error, and refuses to play)

Has anyone gotten ANY demo (other than ones that play mods directly
from an external mod file) to work yet?  There's a little splurge
about Unreal in the README file, and how it must be set to IRQ2,
etc, but I can't get it to go, except for a few sporadic noises.

Finally, anyone gotten the thing to work with Dynamix's "Aces of the
Pacific"?  The options for the Sierra games don't work.

Thanks.

Anthony Tang
aktang@sdcc13.ucsd.edu

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 2:36:33 CST
From: janicek@ccu.UManitoba.CA
Message-Id: <9211150836.AA05321@vogt.cc.umanitoba.ca>
Subject: GUS for salecat txt
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

For sale:     Gravis Ultrasound (you guys know the specs!).
Price:        $200 Canadian + Shipping
Availability: Immediate! (Shipping depending on how you order it may take max 1
                          week)

If interested mail me : Janicek@ccu.umanitoba.ca

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 16:55:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Mark Harrison <harrison@lclark.edu>
Message-Id: <Pine.3.03.9211141626.B12820-b100000@sun>
Subject: I need help!!!!
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

My Ultrasound is locking up in setup.  I get the voice telling me to set
up the card.  And the weird thing is, if the computer has been off for a
while, it locks up when the first window opens.  But once the computer
warms up, it goes all the way to where I can choose the address, except I
never get the chance.  It seems odd that it would lock up in different
places depending on how long the computer has been on.  I think I might
have a bad card.

I tried EVERY base address, dis-abling the joystick, taking EVERYTHING out
of my computer (except the drives and video card), taking everything out
of my autoexec and config files except what's absoultly needed, booting
from a blank floppy (with the system files of course).  Tonight I'm going
to try attacking the interrupts manually.  But so far, NOTHING has made a
difference.  I tried a few interrurpts already, but NOTHING has changed.

I DO get sound.  I played the mididemos.  But setup won't work. 
Wolfenstien crashes when I try to open a door, or someone shoots at me. 
There's something conflicting somewhere.

Any ideas?  Also, since I can't run setup, I have no idea what I need to
put into my autoexec.bat file.  Right now I have "set
ULTRASND=230,1,1,11,5" and "ultrinit".  What are the ULTRADIR and BLASTER
varibles?  I couldn't find anything in the manuals.  But after 6 hours of
fooling around, I was in no mood to read them too carefully.

=============================================================================
Mark Harrison           |  "We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx
harrison@sun.lclark.edu |   Our great computers fill the hallowed halls."
              -- Me     |                                    -- Rush
=============================================================================

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Date: 14 Nov 1992   13:04:30 PST
From: chrisw <chrisw@leland.stanford.edu>
Message-Id: <9211142105.AA04097@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: More questions on GUS FOR MUSIC
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

------------

Thanks for the info, Ken. (I feel a lot better now).

Unfortunately, all my Midi files are set up for my own peculiar uses and in
no way resemble General Midi standards so I can't offer you anything to test
out controller messages. I'm temporarily keyboardless so I can't run off 
something just to test, either.

The volume fade sounds promising, though. (I don't suppose you know if it was
a controller (7, 10 ?) based volume fade or a key velocity based volume fade?).

Still not clear on this point: Can you put in your own noises to use in amongst
the `presets'? (I guess we'd be talking 8-bit until this add-on card comes out)
If you can do this, it should give you some idea of what extra bits and pieces
this card has got (re: my questions on filters, envelopes, etc.). 

By the way, how do you know what's happening with your 256k/1M ? Is this all
managed by the dreaded playmidi program without human intervention? (Does it
tell you if you load a new sound that it doesn't fit or does it just 
arbitrarily scrap something ?)

Thanks again,

Chris

P.S. I couldn't Email to ken@batman.austin.ibm.com - is this my problem or
yours???

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 23:53:57 -0500
From: KWAN  RICHARD SIK YIU <kwanr@ecf.toronto.edu>
Message-Id: <92Nov14.235411edt.6311@skule.ecf.toronto.edu>
Subject: Problems with Kbmidi and Midimapper
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

	Can anyone tell me or show me how I should set up the midimapper for 
my GUS. Cause I find difficulties understanding why only part of the effects
(Voice) shown in kbmidi work and the rest have no response or get the wrong
response. (e.g. I chose "Applause" but I got the same sound as I chose "Sea-
chore") I've checked over the midimapper, the voice effects are all found in
the path maps, but I have no idea what went wrong>
	I've set all the 'patch map name' in "Ultrasound" setup to "ultra", b
but I still leave the "Key map name" to "none". Please help me to figure it
out what's going wrong with my setting!

Thanks in advance!

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 17:11:51 EET
From: Lasse Hero <larry@mdata.fi>
Message-Id: <199211141511.AA06900@mdata.fi>
Subject: Telemart?
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Did Telemart actually get their shipment of Ultrasounds in the beginning
of the week? I remember someone reporting that he had received his
GUS from Telemart, but that's about it. Anybody else?

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Date: 14 Nov 92 17:04:26 +0100
From: BJORNHK@dhhalden.no
Message-Id: <MAILQUEUE-101.921114170425.480@sofus.dhhalden.no>
Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V1 #19
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 2:49:21 EST
> From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
> Message-Id: <9211140749.AA14709@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
> Subject: Making GUS coexist with SB.
> To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>
> - Falcon 3.0 stuff deleted -
>
> the digitized speech almost incomprehensible.  So, I'm working on making
> my GUS coexist with my SB.
>
> I managed to get every feature of both cards to function together except
> the SB's Adlib compatibility.  Games that drive the SB as an SB work fine
> with my GUS/SB setup, but those that use the SB as an Adlib card do not
> detect Adlib compatibility.  It seems that the GUS is hogging port
> addresses 388h and 389h which the SB uses for Adlib emulation.  Is there
> any way to force the GUS to let go of these two addresses?  Seeing as
> how there are many undocumented jumpers on the card, there must be a way
> of doing so.  If not, then is there a utility which will let me map
> addresses 388h and 389h to 228h and 229h?
>
> My two cards' base addresses, IRQ's and other vital stats are as follows:
>
>                     GUS                 SB
> Base Address        230h               220h
> DMA channel          3                  1
> IRQs             (GF1) 11               5
>                 (MIDI) 12
>

You mean you actually got the SB and GUS to coexist, that meaning
your computer actally booted with both cards in? My computer just
refused doing anything at all when I tried that. Great if it works,
though, since that would solve quite a problem for us who already
have got an SB in addition to the GUS

Now, the problem you mentioned about Ad Lib compatability may stem
from an 'Ad Lib comptatability interface chip' I've heard talk about.
This chip was - if I remember corectly - the only solution for geting
the board Ad Lib compatible at all. Some sort of compromise between
hardware and software compatability, you might say.

Anybody know anything more about this?

    -=* Bjorn :: bjornhk@sofus.dhhalden.no
  ACCESS DATA :: TEL: (+47)-9-17 50 48/61-97 791
                 BBS: 61-97 304/97 945




> Phat.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 12:26:01 CST
> From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
> Message-Id: <9211131826.AA09927@batman.austin.ibm.com>
> Subject: More on MIDI/Windows and GUS
> To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>
> I promised more on using the GUS with MIDI in Windows, and here it is!
>
> I got the Cakewalk Professional demo running last night. In doing so,
> I discovered a few things.
>
> 1. The playmidi program is not very sophisticated. When I played back
>    the GUS sequences (like latindnc, for example) in Cakewalk I had all
>    kinds of strange volume level things happening. I didn't have these
>    problems with the Cakewalk demo sequences or other ones I had. At first,
>    I though it was a GUS problem. I eventually went in the Windows pull-down
>    menu in Cakewalk and selected the last item, which displays numeric
>    values for the notes being played (one track at a time). I isolated
>    a track that had these volume oddities and watched the values. I noticed
>    that there was a lot of variance in the levels, so I editied the values
>    and everything sounded normal again. What it leads me to believe is
>    that (a) whoever recorded these demos in used a velocity-sensitive
>    synth and palyed unevenly and (b) the GUS will handle velocity sensitivity
>    in sequences. The playmidi doesn't care - it does a constant values
>    throughout (that you can set in each file's .CFG file).
>
> 2. I discovered (with a little help from the tech support line) that to
>    get patches to load in Cakewalk Professional, you have to load the
>    MIDI sequence in the Media Player first or you get nothing. In fact,
>    I had to load the sequence into Media Player and play part of it,
>    stop it, and then open Cakewalk Professional to get it to work. Then
>    the patches load fine. However, if you change a patch in one track, the
>    track quits playing - even if you switch back to the original sound!
>    That's bad. And if you load a new MIDI sequence with different sounds,
>    I sometimes had to exit Cakewalk, run the Media Player step again, and
>    then reopen Cakewalk. YUCK! That's totally unacceptable. Wonder if I
>    can get a MIDI file that would load *all* the GUS patches at once so
>    I could pick and choose! ;-) (not enough memory!!!)
>
> Anyway, that's the good news/bad news for today. I am off to call GUS
> and find out why things are this way and what can be done about them.
>
> Ken
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 11:38 EST
> From: "Matthew E. Bernold" <MEB117@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
> Message-Id: <9211131638.AA14643@orca.es.com>
> Subject: My vote on mail vs. news
> To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>
> I think that with the 512+ subscribers we have on this list, we can EASILY
> pass a new group.  If we create the group comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.gus,
> and mirror everything posted there to the list, then EVERYONE can see what's
> going on, and we won't have as large a chance of missing the newbies.
>
> Just my $0.018125  (after taxes)
>
>        Matthew E. Bernold             MEB117@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
>          <<APOCALYPSE>>                  meb@haydn.psu.edu
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 13:10:32 -0500
> From: ylee@norton.uwaterloo.ca
> Message-Id: <9211131810.AA27336@norton.uwaterloo.ca>
> Subject: New drivers
> To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>
> Hi all.
>
> I just downloaded new set of ultrasound disks from epas and installed windows
> drivers, midiplay program and new patches. Well...New windows driver does not
> solve the patch loading problem and on top of that, my modified KBMIDI doesn't
> work anymore either. The patch set if not yet complete but complete set of
> percussion patches are very NICE! New windows driver includes MIDI port driver
> but wave mapper stays the same. Both synth and wave driver still has version
> no. 1 as before but synth driver also adds pitch bending capability ( although
> it sounds weird most of time )
>
> Can someone confirm all these. I'd like to know if I'm missing something.
>
> - yuri
>
> ylee@sunee.uwaterloo.ca
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 12:14:57 CST
> From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
> Message-Id: <9211131814.AA09923@batman.austin.ibm.com>
> Subject: Response on GUS for music use
> To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>
> chrisw <chrisw@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
> >1)  Can I plug a keyboard into this thing and `play' the sampler ?
>
> Not yet - the MIDI in function is disabled. Gravis said that there was
> a problem with it, but that they are working to get a fix out for
> this before Christmas.
>
> >2)  Assuming I can plug in a keyboard, how do I set up sounds, midi channels
>
> Do this in Windows 3.1. The MIDI patch table, all that can be done in
> Windows. I had Cakewalk working last night with the GUS.
>
> >3)  How much real-time processing of the samples does the card do? A minimum,
> >    I presume, is looping until note off messages. Also, it must have some
> >    sort of response to the velocity information in midi note press messages?
>
> I don't know what you mean by "real-time processing," but the sounds do
> loop until note off, and the GUS seems to respond to touch-sensitivity
> in sequences. One sequence I played also had a fade-out, and the GUS
> handled it perfectly - the volume decreased smoothly to nothing.
>
> >Has it got any forms of modulation of the sounds (pitch, filter, envelope)?
>
> Dunno. If I had a sequence with some continuous controller stuff in
> it, I could try it.
>
> >By the way, can the thing cope with multi-samples (i.e. a series
> >    of samples of the one instrument at different pitches) ?
>
> Do you mean can it do polyphony? Yes, it will. I assume *all* the
> patches are comprised of a series of samples at different pitches,
> or it would sound weird. It doesn't - it sounds fine.
>
> >4)  Is it currently possible (or will it ever be possible ?)
> >    to use the card with either Cakewalk or Cakewalk for Windows? (In fact,
> >    with any sequencer software?)
>
> See above - I ran it with Cakewalk Professional in Windows last night.
>
> >Keyboard magazine in October suggested that Win 3.1 was useless for
> >playing back samples along with sequences because
> >the timing was appalling (3/4 of a second slop each way).
>
> What keyboard was talking about was triggering .WAV files from MIDI
> sequences, which has lousy performance. I didn't notice any problems
> playing MIDI sequences with Cakewalk Professional in Windows.
>
> The big problem is that with the current version of the software, you
> have to load a sequence in the Media Player first, then in Windows
> to get the patches to load correctly. But more on that in another note.
>
> Again, Gravis told me that they want this fixed before Christmas. They
> will also be doing more testing with various sequencer programs. In
> addition to the MIDI stuff, a newer, better SBOS is supposed to go
> out too.
>
> Ken
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 17:33:42 -0500
> From: ylee@norton.uwaterloo.ca
> Message-Id: <9211132233.AA28562@norton.uwaterloo.ca>
> Subject: SCDEMOS.ZIP
> To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've uploaded SCDEMOS.ZIP to epas.utoronto.ca. SCDEMOS are 13 MIDI demo songs
> for Roland SCC series synthesizers. I believe these cards ( SCC series )
> conform to general MIDI and all songs play fine on GUS. They sound even better
> with new set of percussion patches and new version of playmidi so try them out,
> most of them are stereo songs too.
>
> - Yuri
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 10:30:45 PST
> From: mtichy@sfu.ca
> Message-Id: <9211131830.AA26695@fraser.sfu.ca>
> Subject: software and problems
> To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>
>      Well, the author of Blaster Master, Gary Maddox is
> getting his latest version Ultra Master tested by Gravis.
> This will probably be the first shareware release for the GUS
> to appear.
>
>      I've had some strange things I noticed with the
> UltraSound.  I installed the software on my Quantum 240S which
> is drive D running from an Adaptec 1542B and the setup program
> does not work on that drive.  I moved it to drive C, an MFM
> drive and then the setup program for GUS works.  Really strange.
>
> > This is because the drums are on channel 10, with no patch
> > associated. The
> > driver should have the possibility to assign a drum kit to channel
> > 10.
>
> How do I do this?
>
> > Why would you want to run sbos before windows? You can deinstall
> > sbos with the -f option.
>
> So when I multi-task small dos games, I can get soundblaster
> emulation.
>
> Incidentally, I heard a claim on the Adlib Echo, that SB PRO emulation
> was demonstrated by a dealer to this person.  I'm currently
> trying to find out the correct switch.
>
> I thought the Gravis BBS was supposed to up by now.  Where is it?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 11:00:34 CST
> From: eason@ncp1d.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dale Eason)
> Message-Id: <9211131700.AA06267@ncp1d.StPaul.NCR.COM>
> Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V1 #18
> To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>
> >If all the discussion on the mailing list is posted to the news, what is the
> >point of having a list at all? Just kill the list and start reading news
> >instead.
>
> >Here's my suggestion: periodically (once a week) post info about the list,
> >including how to get on it, how to get files from the server etc.
> >Maybe that would reduce the entirely too frequent add-to-list requests on the
> >mailing list, too.
>
> I agree.  It is much easier for me to use news than mail.  But of course then we
> don't get a history of the messages saved into digests that we can eventually
> look back at.   Once a FAQ is created then maybe we won't need a history.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 12:22:25 EST
> From: lin@eecom.gatech.edu (Brian Lin)
> Message-Id: <9211131722.AA20872@eecom.gatech.edu>
> Subject: unsubscribe
> To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 11:34:36 -0500
> From: tai@eclipse.sheridanc.on.ca (Francis Tai)
> Message-Id: <9211131634.AA00265@eclipse.sheridanc.on.ca>
> To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>
> ================================================================
> [With sorries to all the people which I've deleted some parts of
>  their messages..]
> ================================================================
> >Date: 13 Nov 1992 00:24:39 +1000
> >From: Steven Junacko <CS19242546G@lust1.latrobe.edu.au>
> >Subject: CARD-REVIEW
>
> >Could I get the review of the card please.
>
>    If you have ftp access, You can get the reviews, back issues of the
> digests, midi files, etc.. Off epas.utoronto.ca ftp site.
>
>    or you can use the mail server by sending mail to
> ultrasound-request@dsd.es.com with a subject of help and it will give
> you the list of commands which you will need..
>
> =================================
> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 14:02:08 EET
> From: s106275@ee.tut.fi (Anssi Saari)
> Subject: Getting the word out
>
> >If all the discussion on the mailing list is posted to the news, what is the
> >point of having a list at all? Just kill the list and start reading news
> >instead.
>
>   The point of having the list is that all the issues within the list is
> all about GUS.  I know that I wouldn't like to browse though the message
> conference with all other messages within it. It justs takes too much time..
> this method is far much more easier for me..
>
>
> =====================================
> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:01:05 -0500
> From: adam@epas.utoronto.ca (Adam Iles)
> Subject: Getting the word out
>
> >I am not sure how many subscribers you have for the mailing list, but
> >if it's a significant number we could always look at trying to start a
> >new news group (say comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.gus) that would be
> >gatewayed to the mailing list.  This would also ensure that people who
> >reply to the digest via news will have their response included in the
> >next digest.
>
>    Hmm... If this happens, other people would start asking for their
> own newsgroup [ie: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.pas, etc] and as a
> result, the messages on comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard will trickle down..
> not that I'm against it.. I'm all for it..
>
>
> ===================================
> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 21:32:09 -0500
> From: ylee@norton.uwaterloo.ca
> Subject: Patches
>
> Hi,
>
> >I just figured out that percs.pat ( drum set patch ) has only 13 sounds out
> >of 46 sounds defined in general MIDI spec. It's already 150kB in size and
> >if they put all sounds in one file, it will grow over at least more than 256Kb.
> >Possibly more than 500kB...
>
>  Is it possible for you to post your file containing the drum instrument
> listing???
>
>
> =================================
> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:25:32 MST
> From: ddebry@itchy (Dave DeBry)
> Subject: The Administrator's Suggestion
>
> >   Disadvantages:
>
> >   o More work for me.  (I have to stay late on Thursday nights
> >anyway, but this is still going to take time.)  I wouldn't even
> >volunteer to do this, except I got a letter from Chris Yuzik saying
> >how much Gravis appreciates the Digest.  Thanks, Chris!
>
>      I'm sure that the rest of the GUS owners on the net really
> appreciates your work with the digest.. It's pretty well done..
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 09:56:50 PST
> From: biggles@berlioz.nsc.com (Winston Worrell)
> Subject: The Infamous Midi Cable
>
> >3: A list of games (present and future) that have direct support for the GUS.
>
>    I second that... It's very time consuming to figure out which
> settings work with the games...
>
> >4: Will Gravis ever release a document that describes the GUS and how to
> >   program it that does not contain proprietary information. I would really
> >   like to write code for it (at first for my own use). Anybody have
> >   any pointers as to how to start?
>
> >ps Is the sample file format proprietary or is there a document that describes
> >   it floating around.
>
>    I think this is where the developers package comes in... Anyone cares
> to add to this??
>
> ========================================
>
> Francis
>
>  ---------------------------------------------------------------
> | Francis Tai               | uucp: tai@eclipse.sheridanc.on.ca |
> | 3rD Year Systems Analyst  |   or: francis.tai@canrem.com      |
> | Sheridan College          |                                   |
> | Brampton, Ontario, Canada |                                   |
>  ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of Ultrasound Daily Digest V1 #19
> ******************************
>

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