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Subject: GUS Musician's Digest V10 #2

GUS Musician's Digest       Wed, 2 Nov 94 11:44 PST      Volume 10: Issue   2 

Today's Topics:
                     GUS Musician's Digest V10 #1
                     MIDI box, serial connection
                            MPU401 on GUS
              propats3 is now available by anonymous ftp
                   serial midi interface continued

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 14:05:37
From: jdawes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (John Dawes)
Subject: Re: GUS Musician's Digest V10 #1
Message-ID: <jdawes.38.000E186F@sdcc13.ucsd.edu>

I'm having trouble logging onto the temporary ftp site for propats3...Is 
anyone else?  Can you give me the platform you're running on? My SLIP 
software can get kind of picky!

Thanks
John.


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John Dawes
Music Technology / Computer Science
jdawes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
Handle Head Messiah
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Date: 2 Nov 94 09:49:00 MET
From: "VISX80::GRECNER" <GRECNER%VISX80.decnet@musx53.zfe.siemens.de>
Subject: Re: MIDI box, serial connection

>	I just bought a Kawai KC20 synthesizer.  Besides standard MIDI 
>connections, it also has a serial port interface.  Does connecting this 
>to a computer require special software for the computer to recognize MIDI 
>data transmitted via a serial port?  Does MidiSoft recognize this 
interface?  Any other programs that do?

Windows programs use a MIDI driver to access the MIDI port. So you need
a special MIDI driver for a normal PC serial port to connect to KC20.
It should come from KAWAI directly, didn't it ? You surely can't connect
the serial cable to GUS or so, since MIDI uses speed of 31.25 kbaud, and
RS232 standard serial port uses 19.2 or 38.4 kbaud. Ask at KAWAI for a
Windows driver. Could you let me know if you get it or not ? I'm considering
buying KC20 as well.

					Martin Grecner

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Date: 2 Nov 94 09:50:00 MET
From: "VISX80::GRECNER" <GRECNER%VISX80.decnet@musx53.zfe.siemens.de>
Subject: MPU401 on GUS

I asked this already on general digest and got no response.
Is there a program available that emulates MPU401 interface under DOS
with GUS ? Thank you.

					Martin Grecner

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 17:05:57 -0600 (CST)
From: Antonio Guia <guia@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: propats3 is now available by anonymous ftp

Ok, i'm convinced that enough people want to get propats 3, and i've
convinced the computer services here that this is the case.   My computer
has over-run with ftp requests yesterday and today (poor little pc).  

I've placed propats3 disks 1-19 and will be putting the recent gus disks
and maybe a few other goodies that i've found helpful (sorry, i'm a
windows user) into a gus directory on ftp.cc.umanitoba.ca reachable by
anonymous ftp.

Site:  ftp.cc.umanitoba.ca
directory:  pub/gus/
files:    pp3-1.zip thru pp3.19.zip, and gus356a.zip thru gus356f.zip (to
come later)

login anonymous, and send e-mail address as password.  

This is not a permanent location and may disappear in a few weeks, but you
should all have access to it for at least a month or so...   

enjoy!

also, could someone pls e-mail me an attatchment of piano2???.zip (windows
keyboard driver to use the 101 keyboard as a midi input device).  Thanks.

-tg (tone!)

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 12:09:41 +0100 (MET)
From: tgakem@chem.tue.nl
Subject: serial midi interface continued

> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 1994 09:58:05 GMT
> From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: MIDI box, serial connection
> 
> Wonder if gus-music will bounce my attempt today? Not surprising there
> weren't many contributions in today's Digest.
I experienced something similar...

> Unless someone else knows, you ought to find out from Kawai exactly
> what their serial interface expects. The MIDI signals that come
> out of the GUS game port are essentially the same as from a
> serial port (except of course that the pin-outs are different, after
> all this is meant to be a game port). The MIDI box converts these
> signals to the 'current-loop' signals expected by MIDI devices.
> This implies perhaps that you could connect the Kawai straight to the
> game port without a MIDI box, so long as you had a suitable cable.

I own a Yamaha TG100 general midi module, which also has a serial port
interface. The serial interface of the Yamaha really is an RS232
type of interface, and can be plugged (with the proper cable) into a
serial port of a computer, operating at 38400 baud, this means that you
can use it without any specific midi interface, like that of the GUS.
(Regular midi baud rate is 31200, I believe, but this baud rate is not
present on the serial interfaces of most IBM compatibles.)

> As for Windows software, MidiSoft and the other applications talk
> to device driver software, not direct to the hardware. The
> device driver for the GUS MIDI port is called ultmport.drv. To
> get the apps to talk to one of the standard COM ports, you would
> need a MIDI device driver which did this - I've no idea whether
> this is available.

I know that for the TG100 there are serial port windows drivers
available. I don't have them myself, because at the time I needed to
install things I didn't know about them, and hooked up the module via
its regular midi connection and the GUS midi port. I heard the windows
drivers for the TG100 should be available from ftp sites in a file
named `tg100.zip' or something like that.

I suspect that the serial interface of the Kawai could be the same as
that of the TG100. This would mean that you should check what kind of
cable you need to connect your Kawai to a RS232 type connector, and look
up the tg100.zip file. Then you could connect your Kawai to a serial
port of your computer, and save the GUS midi port for something else.

I would be interested to know if it works.

Eric Meijer

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