# facing up to responsibility

Category: Let's talk

## Post 1 by Stefan (Generic Zoner) on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2005 6:29:22

i've noticed that the new intake of 1st years here at university have this strange idea that one can do anything, no matter how stupid and rediculous, and then blame it all on the alcohol they'd had before they did it.
for example, a friend of mine got lucky with an x of her. she regretted it in the morning, but her excuse was "i was so drunk".
Surely if it was such a bad move, she wouldn't have done it and why don't people just say "i made a mistake"?
it's not that difficult admitting mistakes is it?

## Post 2 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2005 6:37:18

well I think it's an interesting point, but I think what it comes down to, is the fact that people don't like to admit that they're weak in certain situations. It's like revealing their vulnerabilities. It's a known fact that alcohol makes some people become less inhibited, and they do things that they potentially wouldn't do if they were sobour. Doesn't mean the alcohol was to blame, but it's easier to blame the alcohol than to say, when I'm drunk, I'm anybody's.

## Post 3 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2005 6:52:31

But it says something about the person you are if you can hold your hands up and admit you made a mistake and hope to move on from it. I think however, that it is a two way thing, and while I think people should be able to admit when they're wrong, equally, people should be able to accept that others make mistakes, and if they've admitted to it, and apologised, they should be able to move on. After all, not that many things in life are so unforgiveable are they? It says a lot about a person who is unable to forgive another .. after all, who's perfect.

## Post 4 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2005 8:29:47

I think sometimes at least drinking is an excuse for doing something you wouldn't normally do but you may want to do it. I just remember especially back in high school if someone had a crush on someone else they would normally be too shy to do anything about it but basically sought out parties to get drunk enough to reveal their cursh to the potential person, if it went badly they could blame it on the alohol and pretend it was nothing. It's kind of sad, I never di that actually (hehe, mainly because I was too shy even with alcohol and also because I just didn't really drink at the time) but I'm sure I would've done it if things had been slightly different &LT;grin&GT;.

## Post 5 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2005 8:35:01

well yeah but isn't that the sort of behavior generally reserved for 17 year olds? getting drunk to reveal you fancy someone?

## Post 6 by Stefan (Generic Zoner) on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2005 9:04:04

exactly. it certainly does take a lot of courage to tell someone that kind of thing but i'd like to know i could do it without 4 large white wines inside me. It then also follows that you're far less articulate when telling said person you like them which is not a good thing.

## Post 7 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2005 9:18:43

believe me it is for some people who will blame the effects, of any stimulant, in order to hide their immaturity and inability to handle the drink...Also I think again its the pressure to fit in, with the others, who in turn,are joining in with the tradition of going wild before settling down to years of hard bloody work. smile...I went off the rails somewhat and quickly learned to regret it.

## Post 8 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2005 9:25:21

ah but the drinking culture is now one which is rapidly becoming more prevollant, and .. no i can't spell that word ... but especially among women. The ladette culture as they call it sees 30 something women out every night binge drinking to the extent where they actually can't deal with it..

## Post 9 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Tuesday, 12-Apr-2005 9:40:02

Its endemic in Glasgow too often I have seen the same, very drunk teenagers, throwing up in broad daylight,and they never learn you have to wonder at the mind set of someone who would continue serving someone who can hardly stand up...As for the ladette culture well its a good reason..but many of these women have lost their self respect and/or self esteem, beneath all the excuses there deeper social reasons, for their problem drinking