# URGENT! Seeking PET FRIENDLY housing.

Category: Daily Living

## Post 1 by wlchapman (Generic Zoner) on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:41:03

URGENT!!!! PLEASE READ!!!
Any friends within Kentucky that know of affordable (roughly $600/month) rentals
that are PET FRIENDLY, please let me know ASAP. I need contact info for any
landlords that you may know of. MOST IMPORTANT detail: THEY MUST ALLOW ME TO
KEEP DAISY. MUST. Daisy is my mix-breed dog, and $600 is a flexible upper limit. If
the location is decent and has more than 1 BR, I can go a little higher than $600, if
the landlord will work with BAD CREDIT/NO RENTAL HISTORY. Will have CASH on
hand to provide the landlord. This is URGENT. Facing housing instability. This
apartment is being renovated, and must be out ASAP! Thank you for ANY help you
may be able to provide me in finding a stable, secure, and safe home for us,
including DAISY. If Daisy cannot go, I will not consider it. We have the ability to pay
rent/utilities/bills every time, on time. We have income security.
NOTE: Daisy is HOUSEBROKEN and DOES NOT CHEW. She is extremely well trained
and friendly. She understand ALL English.

## Post 2 by Flidais (WISEST IS SHE WHO KNOWS THAT SHE DOES NOT KNOW) on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:07:37

There is a resource line if you call 211 from your phone that should connect you to affordable housing options in your area or at least get you started on the search.

## Post 3 by Shadow_Cat (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:40:26

211 is definitely useful. I'd also google "Pet friendly housing," and then whatever your city is in Kentucky, and you should come up with places. That's how my husband and I found the place that allows us to have our cat.

## Post 4 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:27:12

Yeah, agree with others. Posting to a forum like this was not a good idea if you're looking for something urgent. Because none of us know you or where you live, so it's best that you call 211 which automatically goes to your state (wherever you are).

## Post 5 by wlchapman (Generic Zoner) on Sunday, 29-Jan-2017 14:04:33

I said, and I quote: "Any friends within Kentucky . . . ."
Simple use and reading of the English language would show that I:
1. Live in Kentucky.
and
2. Am looking within Kentucky.
But that's cool, I get that you don't know me, but what does that have to do with
green apples on a Wednesday? I am not asking to move in with you. . . .
I am asking for rental resources in . . . . oh, I don't know, maybe KENTUCKY?
And as for posting on forums not being a good idea, you really don't have a
functional grasp on the idea of networking, do you? It's called networking. N-E-T-W-
O-R-K-I-N-G. If I must, I can find a definition for you.
Thanks for the 211 idea from the person who first suggested it, but any further
harping on it is not useful. Especially when you claim to not know where I am or
where I am looking when clearly stated it. You're just being a weirdo.

## Post 6 by Voyager (I just keep on posting!) on Sunday, 29-Jan-2017 15:32:46

"She understand ALL English."
Up until that last statement I thought this request was serious. But a dog owner who doesn't understand basic English verb conjugation whose dog understands all English? That is hilarious. I wish my dog had understood all English.

## Post 7 by Shepherdwolf (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 29-Jan-2017 21:21:28

Chapman, Kentucky isn't exactly a tiny place. There are lots of towns/cities in Kentucky where you might live. I think your response was way, way snarkier than it needed to be, particularly as you're asking for help.
Chelsea, this wasn't a bad idea, necessarily, it just maybe wasn't the best one. There's a difference between "this wasn't a good idea" - which is sort of a rebuke - and "a better idea might be to..." - which is more suggestion - and you clearly jumped down on the first angle.
That said, the 211 thing is probably a better approach than asking on a forum where people don't know you all that well, even if they know from your original post that you live in Kentucky someplace.

## Post 8 by wlchapman (Generic Zoner) on Monday, 30-Jan-2017 13:27:20

Voyager, take your grammar rules and shove them up your ass. If you're smart
enough to use that type of language, you are smart enough to know typographical
and copy/paste errors occur. So, middle finger for you. How about you put that book
down and go get one on common sense. You're lacking in that area.
People keep saying they 'don't know me,' again I ask, WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT
HAVE TO DO WITH THE PRICE OF GREEN APPLES ON WEDNESDAY? Nothing. Not a
thing. You know what you need to know. I have a pet. I need a place. I am in
Kentucky.
MOST people are smart enough to know that when someone asks for a resource in,
oh, I don't know, Kentucky, that they want to live in, oh, I don't know, maybe
Kentucky? A lack of particular cities would imply--for those in command of the
English language--that oh, I don't know, maybe it doesn't matter, as long as it is, oh,
I don't know, in KENTUCKY?
211 resource gathered. Quit harping it. And, while it may not be the most productive
of ideas (since apparently some of you have severe comprehension issues), it is NOT
a bad idea to network. And contrary to popular belief, one does not have to KNOW
someone to provide them with resources. That's just . . . . retarded to me. "Oh, I
have a list, but I won't give it to him, I don't know him." What the hell ever.
Now then, yes, that WAS snarky, but damn, people. It is really simple:
1. You don't have to know someone to provide a resource, unless you're selfish. Not
asking for an endorsement or a co-signer. Damn.
2. If a resource has been provided, you don't need to harp on it. It was noted.
3. Put your freaking grammar book away. Be grammar police elsewhere.
4. When someone mentions a particular state, that would likely be the area (city
irrelevant) they want to live in. I don't know how you people are twisting that.
Really. I've never once seen a person say: "Hey, anyone in Kentucky know of
rentals?" that was actually looking for rentals in Maine, or Florida or on Mars.
5. Use your brains, people. A lack of city or region of Kentucky implies that city is
irrelevant.
Why do blind people have to be so freaking stupid at times?
Yeah, I am snarky. Yeah, I am being vocal. Why? Being told it wasn't a good idea to
utilize a forum for networking. Please. That's what forums are for. Networking,
sharing information. Then, having the grammar police climb up my ass on top of it.
Whatever.
For those who cannot understand simple English, let's break it down a little more
clearly. I'll TRY to make it so a first grade kid can understand it, but I am not sure
how well that will go. I try to use the common sense and logic of an adult, and that
makes it difficult to translate clear English to Retarded Dumbass.
1. I have a dog.
2. I need to move.
3. I am in Kentucky.
4. I want to stay in Kentucky.
5. Where in Kentucky doesn't matter.
6. I am not asking you to sign my lease too.
7. I am not seeking your friendship.
8. I am seeking resources.
9. You do not have to 'know' someone to help them with information.
10. I loathe grammar police.
11. Grammar police should get a life.
12. Social sites are made for networking.
13. A resource doesn't need to be mentioned over and over.
14. If you have nothing useful or new to contribute, oh, I don't know, how about you
just move along?
Only a handful of blind folks I know actually even try to use their brains. I had
forgotten, until the replies to my post rolled out, why I had distanced myself from
them. Most are stupid, lacking all common sense. Many are
grammar/spelling/historical fact police. I guess they get their jollies by making
someone look bad in public. They think they have to 'know you' to give you a
resource. They rebuke you when you do things differently than they would. I forgot
all about the 'holier than thou' and 'better than you' mentality that comes with blind
people.
Yet, we wonder why we're not liked too much in society. So, yeah, thanks for
NOTHING, retards. I'll look elsewhere, where people have BRAINS and USE THEM,
without grammar books and police, or rebukes, or just blatant disregard for common
fucking sense or ability to read and understand basic English.
Not even sure why I bothered with it. I have spent enough time with other blind
folks in the past to know that this was the likely outcome.
Back to your regularly scheduled rebukes, grammar police stops, and selective
reading. Carry on.

## Post 9 by Shepherdwolf (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Monday, 30-Jan-2017 15:40:24

Okay, then I'll put something to you in English just as plain as yours.
If you're unpleasant enough and vocally abrasive enough, people are not going to want to deal with you. For all your talk of English comprehension and the like, you seem to have missed the boat when it comes to common human decency. Since common human decency tends to grease wheels on forums such as these, you've really shot off your own foot here. What's more, when I pointed this out using gentler language, you continued your snark. This is the social equivalent of beating the living hell out of someone for telling you that you're going the wrong way when you know damn well that you aren't. In a word: overkill.
But have on. If you delight in this sort of excoriation of people who, for the most part, have tried to help you where they can, you're going to get less help as time goes by, and you're going to be solely responsible if and when this forum stops being a helpful avenue of help and advice for you. I won't go an extra step and say that I look forward to it, because I don't. I don't particularly enjoy watching people act like assholes for no good reason, particularly when doing so might alienate those who would otherwise have helped them and might in fact make their situation worse. But I will say that I expect it to happen.
Now, here are a few common-sense rules for you to bear in mind for the future.
1. When people say "I don't know you", what they're saying is a form of shorthand. Most people wouldn't look on a forum full of strangers to try and find a place to live. I've been on forums off and on for the better part of two decades, and I think this is maybe the third such plea for help I've seen. Which is not to say that you shouldn't make it, but a reader's first response when seeing it is often something like, "Um, okay, but why ask us? Is there no one local that can be asked? Have all the local resources been tapped?". Sometimes, when someone says "I don't know you", what they're also saying is "If I knew you, I might be in a position to pull a string for you with someone I know, but I don't". It can also mean something like "I'm not close to you, therefore I'm not gonna do all your legwork for you", which is sort of bitchy but just as true. That's why it matters. That's why people say it. Because "I don't know you" means a lot more. It's called subtext. Learn to read it.
2. When someone mocks your grammar, and then you turn around and viciously mock English comprehension, this is called hypocrisy. If it's wrong for Voyager to have sniped at your language use, then it's equally wrong of you to turn around and harp on and on about what people do or do not comprehend. This is particularly egregious if you're wrong, which in this case you mostly were.
3. When I wanted to find an apartment in my home city, what I did was to type the word "apartments" into Google, followed by my city and province (I'm Canadian). This led me to several websites listing apartments. Those websites usually had prices listed, but nearly all had addresses, phone numbers or email addresses. I found a place to stay in no time at all, and needed no extra help. Because I knew there were a couple of parts of my city which historically haven't been too nice to live in, I also got in touch with a few people who live near here, people I know and trust, to ask if there were any problem areas, buildings or companies I wanted to avoid. Thus armed, I found an apartment in a little less than two weeks. If you need more speed than that, then you'll probably have to be less picky. This is a case where, to be perfectly honest, I don't know why you can't apartment-hunt on your own. What exactly is it that you need from us? We know you live in Kentucky, and we know you have a dog and thus you need a pet-friendly place. Honest question: what can we provide that you can't? What can we offer you that your own resources don't cover? And if we are capable of offering anything vital - and this circles really neatly back to point #1 - are we apt to provide it to a relative stranger? Especially a stranger who is this unpleasant?
Yet again, this is why people say they don't know you and thus don't know how to help. Because oftentimes, the person making the request needs things that the average stranger isn't able or willing to provide to someone they don't know.

## Post 10 by wlchapman (Generic Zoner) on Monday, 30-Jan-2017 16:07:28

People wouldn't look on forums full of people they don't know to look for a place to
live? Dumbass. Ever heard of Craigslist or Topix? Retard.
Assumptive Shepherdwolf, how about this. I looked locally, still am looking locally,
I've searched out all I can. Excuse me for asking someone if they KNEW OFF THE
TOP OF THEIR HEAD of any rentals. But no, your assumptive ass wants to say I am
asking others to do the legwork for me. Fuck you.
You are not my judge, asshole. I don't care what you think is wrong or not. Go hijack
another user's post. You are obviously GREAT at it.
You are an assumptive retard, Shepherdwolf. RESOURCES. R-E-S-O-U-R-C-E-S. Do I
need to define it for you? Come on, now. You're being. You ASSUME I haven't gone
to Google, or asked around. Dumb motherfucker.
I told you clearly, and POLITELY in my ORIGINAL post what I needed. I'm going to
quote it for you dumb motherfuckers again:
"Any friends within Kentucky that know of affordable (roughly $600/month) rentals
that are PET FRIENDLY, please let me know ASAP. I need contact info for any
landlords that you may know of."
It's simple English. SIMPLE. I was clear and concise about what I was seeking, but
you people just don't know how to do anything but push buttons and act better than
everyone else. You dumb motherfuckers only know how to ASSUME.
I HAVE looked.
I HAVE searched.
I HAVE called.
I STILL AM.
I just thought, maybe, just maybe, considering the scope of this site that someone
IN KENTUCKY might have some relevant information, but I get 'holier than thou'
assumptive CANADIANS yapping at me. I'm NOT making fun of your nationality, but
DAMN. I am not going to go BLATHER into a conversation about a STATE WITHIN A
COUNTRY I AM NOT IN. It's NOT helpful. So, you know what Shepherdwolf? SHUT
THE FUCK UP, or post something HELPFUL. Go blow smoke up your own ass. THERE.
Want me to get RUDE? I can certainly do it. I have not yet.

## Post 11 by Remy (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Monday, 30-Jan-2017 16:29:52

Holy hairy handjobs people. That escalated quickly, didn't it? This post could have comfortably ended with post 3. The OP asked a question out of desperation and received a response. Obviously they weren't probably going to find the exact house by posting here. Of course OP, your antagonistic rebuttal to Chelsea's post is going to open you up to all sorts of backlash. Maybe Chelsea could have worded things different I guess, though as oppinions go, that one was pretty tame. But you respond as if Chelsea kicked your dog, with a slury of oral spunk so out of proportion it immediately derailed any chance of having an intelligent discussion. And then a single typeO got blown way out of proportion. It was a typing error, on an internet forum where, let's face it, lots of people make far worse mistakes. Heck I bet I did one myself. And on and on the circle jerk goes. And then here I am trying to mediate in the hopes I won't have to see this topic at the top of the list every day, so I'll probably end up wearing some too. When will I ever learn.

## Post 12 by wlchapman (Generic Zoner) on Monday, 30-Jan-2017 16:43:24

Thank you, Remy, I am glad you see it as it really is: "This post could have
comfortably ended with post 3."
Indeed, it could have. But nope.
I'll be either logging out permanently, or finding an option to deactivate this account.
I tried-again in life-to associate with blind people, and should have my buttocks
kicked hard. I knew better. Always the same end. KSB and the McDowell Center
should have been a big reminder.
So, if anyone else puts this on the top of your topics list after this, it won't be me.
Sorry you had to deal with it, Remy.
TOODLES

## Post 13 by Imprecator (The Zone's Spelling Nazi) on Wednesday, 01-Feb-2017 20:13:55

Jesus fuck. and people say I can be over-reactive.

## Post 14 by Voyager (I just keep on posting!) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 15:20:23

I still want a dog that understands all English.

## Post 15 by wlchapman (Generic Zoner) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 15:55:59

Okay, Voyager, to have a dog that understands all English, you must first understand
the intricacies of the language yourself, you fucking retard. I already said it was a
fucking typo/copy and paste error, dumbass. Surely you're not that fucking dumb?
Maybe you are. Starting shit up again after I bowed of the fucking conversation. You
want to keep pushing my buttons, I'll keep this thread alive for as long as humanly
possible and just keep going with it. Get off your fucking retarded shit and just shut
the fuck up. I did. NOW IT'S YOUR TURN you miserable fucking shit stain. THE
THREAD WAS DONE, but you want to keep being a little fuckwad. Let's go for it,
bitch.
What the fuck does your defective fucking brain not get about a TYPO or COPY PASTE
error?? Goddamn. You are one of those classic fucking blind people that other
LOATHE. Go do something fucking productive, asswipe.

## Post 16 by wlchapman (Generic Zoner) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 16:02:56

Read your profile Voyager. You should be ashamed, using autism as an excuse to be
annoying to people. Get over yourself and get your disability under control. I don't use
MINE as an excuse. Now, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS GOOD, just shut the
hell up in this thread. Go on with yourself. GO ANNOY OTHERS. I tried to stop, but you
wanted to stir shit--AGAIN. Go fuck off.

## Post 17 by Remy (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 16:26:25

Hello Pot, this is Kettle...

## Post 18 by wlchapman (Generic Zoner) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 16:30:48

And you're going to start, too, Remy. Don't know why the fuck you people just don't
stop. It's my thread, bitches, of course I am going to respond. You folks? Just
worthless trolls. Go fuck yourself too Remy. There. I was nice to you before, but dumb
fuckers here don't know shit about how to just stop. Hijack someone else's thread.

## Post 19 by Voyager (I just keep on posting!) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 16:31:12

So what exactly is a classic blind person? Do you mean I'm outstanding or typical?

## Post 20 by wlchapman (Generic Zoner) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 16:33:30

Fuck off, Voyager. Get a life. Your little bitch ass is pushing buttons that you needn't be
pushing, twat. Go on, now. You have done nothing but fucking troll on this topic. You
seriously need to back the fuck off.

## Post 21 by Voyager (I just keep on posting!) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 16:35:27

From my profile: "I'm autistic. If I'm annoying you, I'm probably not doing so on purpose."
Hey everyone, I'm annoying wlchapman on purpose. Autism excuse banished.

## Post 22 by wlchapman (Generic Zoner) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 16:38:06

You're being a little bitch, that's what you're being. You started your holier than thou
shit with me. I made a sincere post and you wanted to be a bitch. Guess what?
BITCHINESS GETS BITCHINESS in return. Why don't you go jump in the garbage can
and let the garbage truck take you to the dump where your ass belongs.

## Post 23 by Remy (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 19:19:15

Actually no. What Voyager has done is nit pick a little verbage. What you are doing in this and other posts is gush a verbal choco chunky dump all over anyone who even vaguely disagrees with you, regardless how they do it. And rather than just be highly opinionated, you're becoming borderline abusive. People aren't really all that nice around here at times. There are all sorts in this little sub culture. But nobody has even approached a personal attack on you beyond maybe poking a little fun, and maybe, debatably, using the wrong verbage. But there's no debating what you're doing. People keep coming back for more, and you keep going and going, digging deeper and deeper. A couple people peed in your pool, so you created a pseunami of urine in return. That's what this is. Congratulations; you can swear.

## Post 24 by Imprecator (The Zone's Spelling Nazi) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 20:01:58

He and Barranca Grande could be best buddies.

## Post 25 by Shepherdwolf (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 20:44:49

Chapman, I thought you were disabling your account and utterly convinced that we're all not worth your time. So much for that, I suppose.
I mean, I've bowed out of a topic only to come back later, and so have several others, so that alone wouldn't warrant a hell of a lot of comment, but it does bear mentioning. One thing I had to accept about myself in cases where I did this was that I'd made a claim I later went back on, and thus lost a little ground/a little respect in so doing. You've now done the same.
I think the most notable thing here is the thing Remy pointed out. You had people maybe rub your fur the wrong way a little bit, and you've responded more violently than basically anyone else I've seen around here for months. Even Silver Lightning (or Cody, if you know him), who has a penchant for being particularly sharp, is nowhere near this shallow nor this crude. He, at least, usually has a point he's getting at, and isn't just spewing insults for their own sake. You, on the other hand, are...what, exactly? Trying to impress us by swearing? Trying to impress us because you apparently lack the social skills to engage in civil discussion when you're crossed? Trying to impress us by saying what amounts to the same thing multiple different ways, and failing each and every time?
Look. If you did your house-hunting research and were trying to use this site as one of many resources, then good for you. This site might not have been your best angle, but to claim it was an actually bad idea to try this is silly. It just might not have been the most productive. But you couldn't leave it there. You've had to start acting the fool, and it makes me shake my head in the worst way.
When I see people act the way you're acting, claiming that they had bad luck elsewhere in some sort of community, I conclude almost immediately that the fault isn't with those communities, but with the person. Has it ever occurred to you that you've had bad luck because you have a tendency to turn and attack people who upset you? Has it ever dawned on you that this sort of behaviour generally isn't tolerated, and that it's apt to get you negatively judged? Hey, if you want to go on doing what you're doing, then by all means do so. Just don't shriek when most people stop taking you seriously.
Personally, I think the sheer unadulterated antagonism you're showing in your posts is pretty abusive, to enough of an extent that I hope that people stop responding to you hereafter. This is the last I'm going to say on the matter, as my feelings should be perfectly clear. Good luck in all your future endeavours, but take that enormous flaming chip off your shoulder.

## Post 26 by HellTabby666 (Shh... quiet, you might piss somebody off.) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 22:12:15

"If any friends in Kentucky know of anything..." Wait, you have FRIENDS!? I am utterly shocked.

## Post 27 by HellTabby666 (Shh... quiet, you might piss somebody off.) on Thursday, 02-Feb-2017 22:17:06

I'd be ignoring so many more people than I am if their bullshit wasn't so entertaining. *cough cough OP cough cough*

## Post 28 by Jack Off Jill (why the hell am I posting in the first place?) on Friday, 03-Feb-2017 16:43:22

Holy shit, that's what I've got to say.
I mean I've never seen someone comment like that before. Anyways, sorry I
can't be of help, my apartment doesn't allow for pets and I don't think the
other ones do either. But I can be wrong. If your not looking for government
housing, I can't help you there either. Good luck to you.

## Post 29 by HellTabby666 (Shh... quiet, you might piss somebody off.) on Friday, 03-Feb-2017 18:45:14

I don't think this jerk wad deserves good luck.

## Post 30 by Shepherdwolf (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Friday, 03-Feb-2017 19:14:20

I disagree. I think they deserve a place to live, because we are talking about a human being and basic needs and all that. I just don't see any reason to extend myself, not if this supreme over-reaction is typical.

## Post 31 by Jack Off Jill (why the hell am I posting in the first place?) on Friday, 03-Feb-2017 19:53:16

If I was a few years younger I'd have kept the ball rolling around in the court.
Now I just see egging on another person as childsplay. It's not interesting to
me. I do agree with you greg, it is a person, a human being. We all deserve
happiness and a good life, if we commit ourselves to having one. Not every
body in the world is deserving, or good. But then we fall back into perception.
For what's good for one may not be for another. Evil is a point of view. Hitler
we call evil, his people, call him good.

## Post 32 by HellTabby666 (Shh... quiet, you might piss somebody off.) on Saturday, 04-Feb-2017 1:03:00

I hope he finds what he needs, but that it's very frustrating.