# MARAJUANA! yeh, I said it, fucken sue me after you read this

Category: Health and Wellness

## Post 1 by Animal A K A Magic Dragon (Veteran Zoner) on Tuesday, 04-May-2010 4:08:42

Okay, So those of you who remember me probably remember that I'm one of the biggest stoners that you would ever meet. Great and all, but I'm here to put the word out on Medical Kanibis Reform.
In November, my state of Arizona will vote on a bill that would then allow those who suffer from acute illnesses, wuther they be stable and pain causing, to the more leathal and deadly kinds to receave and use up to 2.5 ounces of green every fourteen days for medical perpices strictly. I as a glauk coma patient support this bill 420 percent, but, I'm going to use this thread to edgicate those who wish it on the practices, bennifats, plusses and minuses of using weed as a medical and recreational drug. It is in my hope that someday we shall not be bound by means of the law to hide in our friends bacement smoking to elliviate pain or just to relax.
Maybe in all states someday we will have medical marajuana programs in wich patience who suffer from debillitating ailments can find releaf both physically and emotionally.
In this thread, I will poast articals demenstrating the affects of Kanibis, legal adgendas, barggens on parafenelia, high times mag, and more. This of course, depends on me having a stable conection.
So, for the stoners, both for helth, and for well being, lets get high, feel better, and take our rights back to get stoned...
PS:
partisipate, I'm not going to do all this work if no one cares... lol
Enjoy...

## Post 2 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Tuesday, 04-May-2010 11:37:04

I'm glad someone has the sense and the courage to do this. Keep up the good work!

## Post 3 by turricane (happiness and change are choices ) on Tuesday, 04-May-2010 14:33:02

other than using the F. word in the title, I totally agree with you and hope that your state becomes the seventh to allow medical marijuana.

## Post 4 by KC8PNL (The best criticism of the bad is the practice of the better.) on Wednesday, 05-May-2010 9:08:45

Not only do I think that medical marajuana should be legalized, but it should be legalized across the board. Certainly alcohol is much more poisonous and really doesn't serve any real purpose other than to get drunk. I say, since the government wants to tax the shit out of everything, legalize it and then tax it. Besides, many countries have legalized it for recreational use, and some cities here in the US have decriminalized having posession of small amounts, so let's just legalize it altogether and stop farting around already.

## Post 5 by Daenerys Targaryen (Enjoying Life) on Wednesday, 05-May-2010 10:46:18

Yeah I agree.

## Post 6 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Wednesday, 05-May-2010 11:40:31

I'm not saying it's a good idea to sit around and get stoned all day, every day, but what's the harm in having some to relax, or to help relieve pain. It's a lot better for you than most of the pain medication they give you in hospitals, or that you can buy over the counter. Speaking of that, here's what I don't get:
Marijuana, a perfectly natural drug, provided it hasn't been laced, is strictly illegal in many places, but yet doctors and hospitals prescribe moraphine, Oxycotton, ETC., which are basically a controlled form of heroine, and this is okay?

## Post 7 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Wednesday, 05-May-2010 13:22:41

Well, I think those serve a slightly different purpose though. They are much stronger pain medication. Pot only works on certain types of pain in certain circumstances (I've heard, never tried it actually, nothing against it though).
I've heard it works well as nautia relief during chemo therapy for instance.
I think a lot of drugs should be legalized and taxed and administerred in a safe environment, it could take a lot of crime out of society, may be make some drugs less cool, and the tax reventue from the drugs could be used for better health services.

## Post 8 by Animal A K A Magic Dragon (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 05-May-2010 19:24:18

Okay, I must say, less than two days and this board has actually began to pick up. I had a long poast lastnight full of good info, but my conection dropped. But, it seams you all picked up on where I was going with out the message... lol
Yes, Legalising it would serve many perpices. It would free up many people in jail for selling a naturally growing plant, there for sparing millions of dallars a year that travel in to our penal systems. Not to mention the healing aspects, byut I godda eat dinner now. When I am done, I shall come up here and try to make another poast...
420 for life people, 420...

## Post 9 by Eleni21 (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Wednesday, 05-May-2010 19:43:30

I have to agree with you guys. I'd never support legalising hard drugs but marijuana is different, especially if used for medical purposes. As has already been pointed out, alcohol is far more dangerous and is used recreationally and mostly not for healing. It's interesting, however, that discussions of legalising marijuana are taking place even as the rights of tobacco smoker's are disappearing. How ironic it would be to see someone in prison for making regular cigarettes while someone else is able to smoke pot on the street. Seriously, though, good luck.

## Post 10 by Animal A K A Magic Dragon (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 05-May-2010 20:10:59

well, s a cigaret smoker and a pot head, I godda say a few things here.
1. What gives anyone the right to say that no one can smoke, that is a form of dictatership to me. We all have our choices in life. But, I can agree that the hole second hand smoke thing is an issue. But, weed is another story in that regard. If it is legalised, avintually, antimarajuana parties would use the same arguement about second hand smoke.
2. Alkahol is more toxic for the body than green, but the main arguement there is the abundency. If it was legalised, people would grow it rather than just buy it in stores. Tobaco and Alkahol are different in that respect, because it is harder to grow a tobaco plant or preduce effenal wich is the actual name for alkahol.
But, if weed were made legal, even for recreational usage, it could still be taxed, think about it. If you could buy a pack of pre roled joints, rather than buy them, wouldn't you do it. Or, recycleable boles, not only afordible, but good for the invyroment.
I am going to be more organised with future posts, just got my friends kid here anoying me, and disrupting my train of thought. and, as always, my bad for not spell checking, I'm sick and don't feel like proof reading it right now... lol

## Post 11 by Animal A K A Magic Dragon (Veteran Zoner) on Friday, 07-May-2010 21:47:38

well, I haven't been on for a few days, and I come back and see no new posts. Baced on the fact that i got 130 views, at least I know there are some readers, but no posters. Now, I know I have said it before, but I will post something here in a minute or two. but, I am slightly disapointed with the lack of partisipation... I know most of us are stoned after all, but lets edgicate the non-edgicated... lol

## Post 12 by KC8PNL (The best criticism of the bad is the practice of the better.) on Friday, 07-May-2010 21:55:59

Packaging joints together like that has been very successfull in places like Amsterdam here it is freely sold. Sort of strange though isn't it? After they legalized pot for recreational use, nothing bad happened. Same went for prostitution. It was legalized and nothing terible happened. In fact, once these things were done, crime rates fell. it thereby devalidates all of this gloom and doom bs that people keep spreading about how pot, or prostitution for that matter, leads to much worse things.

## Post 13 by Animal A K A Magic Dragon (Veteran Zoner) on Friday, 07-May-2010 22:58:53

Tunderbutt? I believe that's your name... Anyways, exactly my point. Now, take in to considderation if you would for just a moment the issue of gun control in the states. in some states, gun control has been lifted as far as to allowing people to carry and conceal fire arms and side arems with the need for a permit. Now, as we all know, there are thoes who would argue that making weapons such as guns so widely availible and much more, ubtainible with out the use of licensing as daingerus and bad for public safety. But, as times have shown in some states, that lowering the laws a bit actually cut back on gun related crimes, and in many more cases, actually assisted in the previntion of gun related crimes.
The same stats apply to Amsterdam. By legalising and taxing Weed and prostitution, they have decreased crime, not only the hard drug related kinds, but also violence. Though Amsterdam still has one of the highest rates of kidnapping and ubduction in the world, there legal status is much lower than most nations.
If the states dropped the band on marajuana, it would not only make way for a new taxible vinue, wich would help the economy, but we would not be paying millions a year in to the pieal systems for caring for inmates who were charged with weed related crimes, wich in turn, also bennifat the economical status of America.
I believe though, the reason we have not crossed this threshold is do largely in part to the propaganda produced by the media, and the tobaco indestry, to whom the falt falls upon for the origenal banning of the herb back in the thirties.
So, not only are there many helth advantages to the legalisation of marajuana, but there the economical aspacts as well. So, next time buy yourself a pack of smokes, wich I love as well, don't forget to thank there ignorence and there greed for banning a natural medicen, and recreational plant... Fuck you marbrel man... lol

## Post 14 by Animal A K A Magic Dragon (Veteran Zoner) on Friday, 07-May-2010 23:14:52

Also Tunderbutt, I was just talking to my friend regarding the prostitution issue, and he has brough up a good point.
In Navada, spissifically Los Vagus, Prostitution is legal under strict means. First off, to be a prostitute, you need to have a basic STD exam regularly for ovvius reasons. Now, I am not serten on the regulations of Amsterdam and other unions wich allow for the job of choice, but if it were mad legal everywhere, we would have STD breakouts on a level not ever seen. Now, I personally believe in the free love movement that died out in the seventies do to AIDs and HIV, but, my friend brings up a vallid point.
He said, and I quote, "we have prostitutes pointing a loaded gun at people." He was meaning it in a mediforical aspect, but he is right nevertheless. Most prostitutes don't care what desese they cary or infect others with, so if it were made legal on a nation wide sence, or world wide, we would have pretty much every hoe breaking out with Herpies, Climidia, and not to mintion Siffelis and HPV. So yes, I can agree with you in part, but I personally can't condone prostitution as a safe thing to legalise. Unless of course, we made strict regulations that all would be forced to follow, but the likelyhood of prostitutes following those regulations is pretty much next to nonexistent.
Sorry prosties... smile

## Post 15 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Monday, 10-May-2010 10:10:28

We all remember prohibition, right? That is a perfect example how criminalizing what was widely popular led to people importing alcohol illegally, and trying harder to get it, simply because it was hard to.

## Post 16 by Emerald-Hourglass (Account disabled) on Monday, 10-May-2010 16:06:03

Light it up! haha I agree 420% as well. Everyone already said what i wanted to say..

## Post 17 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Tuesday, 11-May-2010 10:02:07

Cancer patients are legally allowed to have it, so there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

## Post 18 by Animal A K A Magic Dragon (Veteran Zoner) on Thursday, 13-May-2010 9:12:41

well, I like the probission reference here. It goes with anything really. You tell a child not to do something, and they want to do it more. but if you give them what they want, well, thats a different story. I siriusly think that we as humans creat more problems for ourselves than necessary... but... iether way, it will be legal one way or another.
Thanks again for the ones who have poasted to this topic, at least I haven't gotten taken down because of it being a "illegal drug thing." But, I'm keeping the board up as long as I can. Sorry if I don't pop in all the time. just poast around my absence. lol, godda puff a blunt now. cach ya all laters...

## Post 19 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Thursday, 13-May-2010 11:20:38

Okay guys. I found this on google, and thought I would post it. No, I didn't write any part of it.
The Benefits of Marijuana
By Joshua Levine
Are you sick of hearing your girlfriend nagging you about letting go of your pot pasttime? Have you been hearing a lot of negative things about the use of marijuana lately? Would you like to know what the real deal is behind the use of this infamous drug? Then read on because you're in for a surprise.
One of the saddest things in North America is the lack of clinical trials on marijuana use. Many other countries in the world have already performed such tests in order to destroy myths about this drug, which has been in use for thousands of years... mainly for medicinal purposes.
The data from previous studies, published in numerous books and scholarly journals, covered such matters as marijuana's effects on the brain, lungs, immune and reproductive systems; its impact on personality, developmental and motivational states; and its addictive potential.
Although these studies did not answer all remaining questions about marijuana toxicity, they generally supported the idea that marijuana was a relatively safe drug -- not totally free from potential harm, but unlikely to create serious harm for most individual users or society.
The following list will hopefully demystify several myths about marijuana use and help answer a lot of serious questions:
Health Risk Myths and Realities
Marijuana Overdose
There is no existing evidence of anyone dying of a marijuana overdose. Tests performed on mice have shown that the ratio of cannabinoids (the chemicals in marijuana that make you high) necessary for overdose to the amount necessary for intoxication is 40,000:1.
For comparison's sake, that ratio for alcohol is generally between 4:1 and 10:1. Alcohol overdoses claim approximately 5,000 casualties yearly, but marijuana overdoses kill no one as far as any official reports.
Brain Damage
Marijuana is psychoactive because it stimulates certain brain receptors, but it does not produce toxins that kill them (like alcohol), and it does not wear them out as other drugs may. There is no evidence that marijuana use causes brain damage. Studies performed on actual human populations will confirm these results, even for chronic marijuana users (up to 18 joints per day) after many years of use.
In fact, following the publication of two 1977 JAMA studies, the American Medical Association (AMA) officially announced its support for the decriminalization of marijuana.
In reality, marijuana has the effect of slightly increasing alpha-wave activity in your brain. Alpha waves are generally associated with meditative and relaxed states, which are, in turn, often associated with human creativity.
Memory
Marijuana does impair short-term memory, but only during intoxication. Although the authoritative studies on marijuana use seem to agree that there is no residual impairment following intoxication, persistent impairment of short-term memory has been noted in chronic marijuana smokers, up to 6 and 12 weeks following abstinence.
more marijuana myths
Heart Problems
It is accepted in medical circles today that marijuana use causes no evident long-term cardiovascular problems for normal persons. Marijuana smoking, however, does cause changes in the heart and body's circulation characteristic of stress, which may complicate preexisting cardiovascular problems like hypertension, cerebrovascular disease, and coronary atherosclerosis. Marijuana's effects on blood pressure are complex and inconsistent as of yet.
Hormones
Chronic marijuana use has not been found to alter testosterone or other sex hormone levels. In contrast, heavy alcohol use is known to lower these same testosterone levels.
Reproductive Damage
No trustworthy study has ever shown that marijuana use damages the reproductive system, or causes chromosome breakage. Studies of actual human populations have failed to demonstrate that marijuana adversely affects the reproductive system. Claims that marijuana use may impair hormone production, menstrual cycles, or fertility in females are both unproven and unfounded.
The Immune System
Studies in which lab rats were injected with extremely large quantities of THC (the active compound in marijuana) have found that marijuana (in such unrealistically huge quantities) does have an "immunosuppressive effect" in those lab rats, in that it temporarily shuts off certain cells in the liver called lymphocytes and macrophages. These macrophages are useful in fighting off bacterial, not viral, infections.
But this is only for the duration of intoxication. There also exists some evidence that marijuana metabolites remain in the lungs for up to seven months after smoking has ceased, possibly affecting the immune system of the lungs (but not by turning the cells off).
This said, doctors and researchers are still not sure that the immune system is actually negatively affected in realistic situations since there are no numbers to support the idea. In fact, three studies showed that THC might have actually stimulated the immune system in the people studied.
Cancer
Smoking marijuana has the potential to cause both bronchitis and cancer of the lungs, throat, and neck, but this is generally no different than inhaling any other burnt carbon-containing matter since they all increase the number of lesions (and therefore possible infections) in your airways.
The Gateway Effect
Marijuana use has not been found to act as a gateway drug to the use of harder drugs. Studies show that when the Dutch partially legalized marijuana in the 70's, heroin and cocaine use substantially declined, despite a slight increase in marijuana use.
If the stepping stone theory were true, use should have gone up rather than down. In reality, it appears that marijuana use tends to substitute for the use of relatively more dangerous hard drugs like cocaine and heroin, rather than lead to their use.
Thus, oftentimes strict marijuana laws themselves are the most significant factor involved in moving on to harder drugs like cocaine. Such is the case in Nevada and Arizona, the states toughest on marijuana use.
the potential benefits
Because smoked marijuana contains a variety of combustion compounds, it can damage the lungs and possibly the immune system. Several health committees recommended the development of an inhalation device that delivers pure THC -- the active ingredient in marijuana -- to the lungs. Such a device has not yet been created.
There is some evidence -- but no scientifically valid studies -- that marijuana is useful in treating some forms of epilepsy and spasticity caused by multiple sclerosis.
Some studies show that smoked marijuana is effective for some patients in relieving nausea caused by cancer and chemotherapy.
There is evidence that marijuana may improve the appetite and help patients gain weight. This could be lifesaving for AIDS patients who develop wasting , a severe weight-loss condition.
Smoking marijuana is effective in lowering pressure inside the eyeballs of some patients with glaucoma. A word of caution, however: the drug also drops blood pressure, and this could compromise blood flow to the optic nerve and damage vision.
So there you have it. For additional information on the benefits of marijuana, I highly recommend the book The Benefits of Marijuana : Physical, Psychological, and Spiritual by Joan Bello.
In case anyone was wondering where I got this, here is the URL:
www.askmen.com/sports/health/20_mens_health.html

## Post 20 by Animal A K A Magic Dragon (Veteran Zoner) on Thursday, 20-May-2010 1:10:42

Hey stoners.
Sorry I been absent lately, godda lot of things going off line but, here I am.
Oceandream, thanks for that last poast, Finally someone who is looking at the positaves and not just the negatives. More people like yourself are needed if we are ever going to get over our caltural differences with Kanibis. But, we are on the right track. In fact, My states law to lighten the band for medical usage is going grand, and I look forward to voting in November.
I'm happy to see this board moving, and some people are actually taking it siriusly. Though I wanna have fun with this, I want it to stay with in the rules with the site here. So, thanks again to thoes ho poast, for keeping it cool.
Till next update, 4 20 fore life my fellow kanibis using stoners.

## Post 21 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Thursday, 20-May-2010 9:20:43

To be completely honest, I've never used it, but I really can't see why so many people make such a big deal of it.

## Post 22 by Animal A K A Magic Dragon (Veteran Zoner) on Saturday, 22-May-2010 6:34:05

THE AFFECT OF THC ON THE BRAIN...
THC is a cannabinoid compound, which binds to CB1 cannabinoid receptors in the human brain. These cannabinoids mimic naturally occurring endocannabinoids produced within the brain, but with more powerful effects. CB1 receptors are found in the cerebral cortex (primarily the frontal regions), the basal ganglia, the cerebellum, the hypothalamus, the anterior cingulate cortex, and the hippocampus.
The effects of THC have been experimentally shown through the use of animal studies and some in vitro human studies. THC acts by inhibiting the release of neurotransmitters, including L-glutamate, GABA, noradrenaline, dopamine, 5-HT and acetylcholine. Although endocannabinoids are rapidly inactivated by the enzyme fatty acid amide hydrolase, exogenous cannabinoids, such as THC, persist for extended periods of time, resulting in the noted physiological effects.

## Post 23 by Animal A K A Magic Dragon (Veteran Zoner) on Saturday, 22-May-2010 6:49:58

I think it's wrong for society to lie to teenagers about smoking marijuana. I find it frustrating when I hear ads from places like "Partnership for a Drug Free America" running commercials against Pot that just aren't true. I don't like it when people warn teens about using "Marijuana and Cocaine" when Pot is almost harmless and Cocaine is a dangerous drug. When people lie to teens about Marijuana then teens assume they are lying about other drugs too and I think they are more likely to do drugs they shouldn't do. So I think it's time to come clean and tell the truth. If teens are going to do drugs, they should have truthful and accurate information. So I have decided to tell it like it is. Best decisions are made when the real facts are presented.
For those parents who are reading this in horror, I am not trying to get kids to smoke Pot. What I am doing here is trying to tell them the truth, and tell you the truth about a widely misunderstood substance. This is an opportunity for everyone to have a better understanding of reality. If you can't handle reality, stop reading this web page. There are plenty of other web sites that will tell you what you want to hear. This is not one of them.
How bad is Marijuana Really?
As compared to most drugs, Pot is the least dangerous. Pot is not an addictive drug. For those who claim it is, anything is theoretically addictive, and there are some people who can become addicted to spring water. So to put it in perspective, Pot is less addictive than coffee. I have become addicted to coffee myself and have broken the habit. You get mild headaches for a few days. I have never had any symptoms for withdrawal from Pot.
Pot will cause some short term memory loss. It's harder to remember a 10 digit phone number. Beer causes the same memory loss as Pot. The effect is temporary and wears off completely. Pot has no long term affects on the brain. I have been smoking Pot for the last 25 years and I still test as a genius on IQ tests. My mental abilities have increased over the years.
Pot will give you the Munchies. You may eat more than you would normally. If you are on a diet, you should factor this in when deciding to smoke Pot. It could cause you to gain weight.
Pot is a sexual stimulant. It removes a persons inhibitions. You are more likely to agree to have sex when you are stoned. You are also more likely to not use birth control while stoned. Sometimes people get others stoned to try to get them to have sex when they normally wouldn't. If you are getting stoned with members of the opposite sex, be aware of this and realize that it can have this effect on you.
If anyone asks if you smoke Pot, Just say No!
Never drive while doing any drugs or alcohol, or many prescription drugs for that matter. Alcohol causes you to wreck your car. Pot has a much lesser effect on driving than alcohol, but it has some effect. You are more likely to pull out in front of someone or run a red light than lose control of the vehicle. Pot might also cause you to get lost. Don't drive while stoned.
Smoking Pot increases your risk of cancer. But most people smoke very little Pot. If you use Pot moderately you don't have anything to worry about. Moderate means a joint every few days.
Pot will give you dry mouth. Have something to drink when smoking Pot.
The most dangerous thing about Pot is getting caught with it. You can go to jail. People get very weird about Pot and you can get in a lot of trouble over it. So if anyone asks if you've been smoking Pot, Just Say No!
Marijuana is the safest of all drugs. It is far safer to smoke a joint than to have a beer. Pot is the drug of choice for people who want to get high, but be responsible in getting high. There are people who do no drugs at all, and that's fine. But for those of you who want to get high and be responsible, Pot is a very good choice.
Marijuana make most people more relaxed. It relieves the clutter and tension after a hard days work or school. It mellows you out and makes you more relaxed. It heightens the imagination and improves creativity. If you have a problem with anger, Pot is usually a good drug to reduce it.
Marijuana has other medical benefits. It helps reduce problems with glaucoma. If you have cancer, it reduces nausea from chemotherapy. I had a close friend who died of cancer. His doctor prescribed Pot even though it wasn't legal. I gave him some and it allowed him to eat food again. This was three weeks before he died. I think the Pot gave him another week of quality life.
Marijuana is also safer, more effective, and has less side effects than many prescription antidepressants. Shortly after my divorce when I learned that I got a judgement for more that 100% of everything I owned, my doctor put me on Pamalor, a common antidepressant. Pamalor turned me into a zombie and made me practically impotent. I merely existed and felt nothing, had no motivation, couldn't accomplish anything, and became basically useless. After two weeks of that I got off it. Getting stoned and laid a couple time a week had a much better result. I was alert, motivated, effective, sharp, got better sleep, happy, and alive. Not all antidepressants have this same effect. However, these drugs are overperscribed and in many cases I think that an occasional joint is a better alternative to antidepressant drugs.
Marijuana is especially good for those with high stress lifestyles. The brain has a tendency to lock on to a problem and your mind gets into a mental loop where you can't stop thinking about work or some other problem. Pot can help you break the cycle and see the problem from a different perspective, or allow your mind to move on and rest allowing you to enjoy life so that you can recover and have a fresh perspective for the next day.
Marijuana enhances certain mental abilities. Although it cuts into short term memory, it reallocates mental resources allowing you to become more imaginative and to come up with new solutions to problems that you wouldn't normally think of when you're not stoned. Much of my creative writing starts from things I though of while smoking Pot. For example, my web page on Teen Cigarette Smoking is a very effective web page that has resulted in thousands of kids decided to not smoke cigarettes. I wrote most of it while I was stoned. And I came up with the concepts as to why it would work as a result of smoking Pot. My smoking Pot has resulted in a decrease in teem smoking.
When used correctly and responsibly, Pot can actually increase your ability to find new and innovative solutions to problems.
There are hundreds of web sites targeted at discouraging kids from smoking cigarettes and they all have the same message, "Smoking causes Cancer and will kill you." There's nothing wrong with that message and I'm sure that it reaches a lot of teens. However, a huge number of teens still smoke and it's not because they haven't got the cancer message. Traditional thinking results in repeating the message more times. The idea being is that if these kids actually understood the health issue, they would quit smoking. This kind of reasoning is an example of what is known as "thinking inside the box".
Marijuana helps you think "outside the box". This concept of thinking "out of the box" is an ability sought after by corporations who want to hire people with new an innovative ideas and actually invent a better mousetrap. However, by having drug testing policies the corporations are actually excluding the very people who they seek to hire. I believe that if some of these corporate policy makers were to smoke some Pot themselves, they would realize that Pot, when used responsibly, actually enhances a persons ability to make strategic decisions.
read more at.
www.perkel.com/politics/issues/pot.htm

## Post 24 by Animal A K A Magic Dragon (Veteran Zoner) on Saturday, 22-May-2010 7:02:47

I just noticed that below the scrole, where the Google Adds are, there are a bunch of listings for rehab and drug help programs... Kind a Ironic, don't you agree? lmmfao

## Post 25 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Monday, 24-May-2010 9:08:34

Even in schools when they're trying to discourage students from smoking pot, they can't come up with very many negative effects, so they like to focus on the fact that it temperarily impairs short-term memory. There have been many formal debates on the subject over the years, and the positive side usually wins. On similar debates I've seen about alcohol, the negative side usually wins, because the risks of alcohol seriously outweigh the benefits, and the brain damage is permanent.

## Post 26 by Sage Rose (the Zone BBS remains forever my home page) on Friday, 23-Jul-2010 3:58:13

I live in California and I think they are trying to legalize pot here, and if that's the case, I'm all for it.

## Post 27 by cattleya (Help me, I'm stuck to my chair!) on Saturday, 24-Jul-2010 2:28:14

To post23, not for everyone does it increase the chances of sexual activity; (but then again, maybe I am the wierd one...I do not get seduced when drinking either). Also, I am the daughter of a drunk, but I will freely say, I would much rather and feel much more comfortable with a house full of potheads as apposed to being alone with one drunk. I do not like alcohol; (except for in moderation), it causes completely umpredictable reactions, and I have seen; (from life's little experiences), that people smoking pot are much more rational and sane!

## Post 28 by turricane (happiness and change are choices ) on Friday, 30-Jul-2010 9:30:44

my philosophoy of life is nothing in excess. smoking pot moderately is fien as is drinking in moderation. My problem with marijuana is that it is not regulated so people can monkey with it and put other stuff in it.

## Post 29 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Friday, 30-Jul-2010 14:50:15

Yeah. I would never do it unless I could completely trust the source. It's fine in it's natural form, but if it's laced, it'll really screw you up. Just like tobacco, in it's natural form, it's really no worse for you than coffee, but with all the crap the tobacco companies add to it, that's what really screws you up.

## Post 30 by cattleya (Help me, I'm stuck to my chair!) on Friday, 30-Jul-2010 22:31:37

Oh, I agree, and I see where you coming from, but my point still remains...And, ever heard of spiked drinks? People can f with alcoholic drinks and lace them with something if you leave your drink unattended.

## Post 31 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Monday, 02-Aug-2010 8:37:59

And just like anything else, it's whatever it's laced with that does most of the damage.

## Post 32 by turricane (happiness and change are choices ) on Tuesday, 03-Aug-2010 14:31:42

here's a scary thing i heard recently. a friend who is a professional bartender said that he has told his teenage daughters to only drink bottled beer and to only open and pour it themselves. apparently the hgb or ruffis or whatever the date rape drug of choice is nowadays is so commonly slipped in them that simply watching is not good enough.

## Post 33 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Tuesday, 03-Aug-2010 15:05:33

Yeah. It is a scary thought, and a lot of times, the drug is clear, and has no distinct taste, so you could drink it, thinking it was fine, and, well, you know the rest. As for laced marijuana, if you've never had any before, you probably don't know how it smells/tastes, so you might not know what to look for. I know I wouldn't.

## Post 34 by roxtar (move over school!) on Friday, 06-Aug-2010 2:51:40

This thread is great! Its good to see some honest to god educated discussion about this topic.

## Post 35 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Friday, 06-Aug-2010 8:06:30

I really respect the fact that so far, nobody has posted the usual....drugs are bad for you! Stay away, speech. While I totally agree that speech is very true for the chemical based drugs, like cocaine, acid, meth, ETC., it's nice to know that people don't seem to be classifying marijuana in that category.

## Post 36 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Friday, 06-Aug-2010 9:53:20

I completely agree. it's a very good thing indeed.

## Post 37 by leah_s1986 (Generic Zoner) on Saturday, 28-Aug-2010 22:58:42

Well Well!! good to see some good down to earth people. If the goverment made pot legle are crime rate would go down... god pot has so many benafits!! I love it she is my bff (marry Jain)

## Post 38 by turricane (happiness and change are choices ) on Friday, 10-Sep-2010 10:38:33

Ocean Dream,
In a previous message you said something about cocaine not coming from a natural substance and putting it in the same box as manufactured chemicals like meth etc. etc. for the record, though extremely bad for us, very expensive, and adulturated by all the crap they do to it, as the daughter of a librarian I must, whether you like it or not, educate you. cocaine comes from the leaves of the coca plant. it is grown in the andes and other places. In its natural state, aboriginal people chew the leaves and drink tea made out of it. This helps them to stay up for days and days. It is also used in religious and healing rituals.
Back in the 1800s, doctors found out that it made a great anesthesia. Many of the breakthrough ophthalmological, eye surgery, procedures would never have occurred without this innovation.
Some bored scientist, there actually was one, whose name escapes me, decided to try this anesthesia as a recreational substance. He thoroughly enjoyed himself. The rest as we know is history.
After it is manufactured, the process of which would make you very sick to read about, we get the devil incarnate we know today. Crack is cocaine that has strayed even further from its roots.
You all probably know all this stuff already but i just wanted to clarify. thanks for your patient indulgence.

## Post 39 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Friday, 10-Sep-2010 13:33:27

Ok. That's some interesting information. Thanks for posting that. However, like cigarettes, they most likely treat it with harmful chemicals to enhance its affect, make it more addictive, and so on. If not for the chemicals, I wouldn't have anything bad to say about cigarettes. I guess the real question is, what are the benefits of cocaine and other such drugs as opposed to the risks? Well, other than getting high, and feeling good short term, I don't know of any benefits of cocaine, but it can cause serious health problems, as can heroine, which, if you really want to get technical, is also made of a natural plant. See? This is what I'm getting at though. I was misinformed that cocaine was a chemical based drug just as many other people have been misinformed that marijuana is, and have permanent effects.
If the government's logic is that it's illegal because it can cause problems to other people, including those who have nothing to do with the entoxicated person, then almost everything should be illegal. Alcohol causes vehicle accidents. Internet can cause widely spread scams, viruses, and other such problems. TV can cause kids to procrastinate in school, and subsequently fall behind. House cleaners can, in the long run, cause health problems. Vehicles can indirectly cause road rage, and environmental problems. Artificial colors and flavors can cause short term and long term health problems. The list goes on and on. So, should all these things be illegal, just because they can possibly cause problems?

## Post 40 by Jeff (the Zone BBS remains forever my home page) on Friday, 10-Sep-2010 21:32:27

I agree with this marajuana can help a lot of people who are sick, it can also kill some of the cells that make up cancer, and other ellnesses.