# the rolling quizz

Category: Game Parlor

## Post 1 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 16-Oct-2005 11:45:36

Okay all, just for a bit of fun here's a new game. The idea is that I'll kick things off by asking a question. If you think you have the answer then post it and if your answer is correct then you get to ask the next question and so on. So I'll get the ball rolling with this question and see what happens.
In which country were the 1936 Olympic games held?

## Post 2 by Selena Fan (Account disabled) on Sunday, 16-Oct-2005 12:07:48

I think they were held in Germany!

## Post 3 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 16-Oct-2005 13:04:43

You think correctly. Berlin to be exact. Over to you sir for the next question then.

## Post 4 by Selena Fan (Account disabled) on Sunday, 16-Oct-2005 14:34:20

Where were the 1988 Olympics held?

## Post 5 by Vulpine (Generic Zoner) on Sunday, 16-Oct-2005 14:39:34

Soel in korea.

## Post 6 by Vulpine (Generic Zoner) on Sunday, 16-Oct-2005 15:09:03

Who were the first people to provide an organised Banking service, and in what century?

## Post 7 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 16-Oct-2005 15:50:17

ouch! this could take some researching! hehehe

## Post 8 by Vulpine (Generic Zoner) on Sunday, 16-Oct-2005 16:05:27

Bring it on dan if you think you are good enough lmao

## Post 9 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Monday, 17-Oct-2005 21:12:58

well, angel77 and i have done some research into this tim and the best we could come up with was italy in the 12th century. are we even cloce?

## Post 10 by Vulpine (Generic Zoner) on Tuesday, 18-Oct-2005 13:27:28

Fairly close. Century is correct and I can see where you would get Italy from but it is the actual organisation I am after. But it wasn't just restricted to Italy.

## Post 11 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Tuesday, 18-Oct-2005 15:56:08

The banking question seems a bit flawed to me, it all depends on your meaning of banking.
Coin exchange e.g. was used ever since the Egyptians, and around 300 BC the egyptians had developed a complicated and sophisticated banking models with accounts that coul exchange value without actual coinage being handed over. Proofs of bills being used early on in China are hard to dispute, as early as the 8th century and arabs and Jews are rumoured tohave used paper bills as early as that as well. What the person is probably after here is the fact that several Italian and French states started issuing and using bills as meansof payment around the time of the crucaids in the 11th century. The first transaction recorded to use bills was in 1156 in Genoa.
the Knights of the Temple and the Hospitallers were the ones to develop services that are most smilar to modeern banking modelling the servies on the Italian states, this all happened in the 11th and 12th centuries.

## Post 12 by Vulpine (Generic Zoner) on Tuesday, 18-Oct-2005 17:16:20

The knights Templar is correct. They were the first people to offer a service whereby you could deposit money with them, Also they offered a service, where you could deposit money with one templar, then travel to another country and withdraw the same amount from another templar. So WB over to you for the next question

## Post 13 by Ukulele<3 (Try me... You know you want to.) on Tuesday, 18-Oct-2005 18:57:47

lol Tim!!! That was a hard question! lolol I had a hard time looking it up! heheheh Ok, Wildebrew. What's your question for us?
*sexy*

## Post 14 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 11:16:43

come on willy willy woo brew, we're eagerly awaiting your question?

## Post 15 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 15:27:37

Ok folks .. here's the question ;) sorry for the delay.
Who was Phoebe's "invissible" room mate (from the TV series Friends), what was the room mate's name and once she "left town" what day was she supposed to come back (answer to either of these will qualify as a correct answer, answer to both gets "Friends nerd points").

## Post 16 by silly_singer (The girl who's always lost in a melody) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 16:14:46

oooo! The name I believe is Deneese(excuse spelling) and at the moment blanking the day but I know I can come up with it!

## Post 17 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 16:19:41

Well done ss! you are right (and Phoebe claimed she was coming back "December 26th" .. "went to live with Sants").
SS, the quetion is yours.

## Post 18 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 16:23:22

okay silly_singer, the batton has been passed on to you. so give us a question.

## Post 19 by silly_singer (The girl who's always lost in a melody) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 16:25:14

ok all! As some of you most likely know the first seeing eye dog to work in the US was named Buddy. Here's where my question comes in. The dog had another name but Moress Frank changed it to Buddy because he didn't like it. What was Buddy's origional name?

## Post 20 by yankee g wolverine (Account disabled) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 17:37:31

blindy? have no clue whatsoever

## Post 21 by silly_singer (The girl who's always lost in a melody) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 18:02:31

sorry! It's not Blindy! LOL I'll give it a while, but harp if clues are permited please? let me know.

## Post 22 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 19:08:19

Ok, the dog was actually named Kiss, and he renamed the dog Buddy when he returned to the states from switzerland where he got her.

## Post 23 by silly_singer (The girl who's always lost in a melody) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 20:05:01

ok! Blackbird! You got it! Nice work I stumped a lot of people today

## Post 24 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 20:11:58

Ok, here goes.
Who was the first to climb the matterhorn? and in what year?

## Post 25 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 20:21:59

The first one to climb that good mountain was a guy named Edward Whymper in July July 14th 1865. Sadly on the descent there was an accident in which 4 of the 7 crew members died.

## Post 26 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 20:25:22

B, You are good, even more information than I had. It's back to you for the next question.

## Post 27 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 21:04:28

All right, in the south western part of the Carribbean lies a pretty big land mass. The island is divided into two states, the eastern part is rather thriving tourist destination with lots of beaches and lush forest, the western part however is a state that not only has seen a lot of hurricane damage and has a lot less vegetation and over all dryer and not as hospitable climate but also has seen a state of near cevil war and political unrest for decades.
Which two states occupy this island?

## Post 28 by silly_singer (The girl who's always lost in a melody) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 21:19:02

Haty and the Dominicon Republic. The island is hispanola

## Post 29 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 21:24:22

Well done, over to you *smiles*

## Post 30 by silly_singer (The girl who's always lost in a melody) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 21:32:56

Ok folks! Perhaps one of the most popular songs ever is "white Christmas" by Bing Crausby. What movie was it orrigionally featured in? Carful this is tricky!

## Post 31 by Ukulele<3 (Try me... You know you want to.) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 22:14:51

lol Katie. Was the movie "Holiday Inn?"
*sexy*

## Post 32 by silly_singer (The girl who's always lost in a melody) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 22:17:36

That's correct! Your turn to stump us all... ahh I mean challenge!

## Post 33 by Ukulele<3 (Try me... You know you want to.) on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2005 22:34:56

lol Ok, here's my question for you all. hmmm. It may not be the best question but oh well.
Which musical instrument contains about 70 separate pieces of wood?
hehehehe Answer if you dare!
*sexy*

## Post 34 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 1:30:04

Hmm, don't know why I'm answering, as that entails thinking of another but more difficult question. Michelle, I believe the answer you're looking for is the Violin.

## Post 35 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 8:58:11

I'd think it's the violin too, I'm petty sure in fact .. but need confirmaton before we can go ahead to the next question .. so come on Michele .. come on ;) verify!

## Post 36 by Ukulele<3 (Try me... You know you want to.) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 9:40:55

lolol! Kev. You are right! So shoot us with the next question!!!
*sexy*

## Post 37 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 9:50:04

Why was Natal so called?

## Post 38 by Luce (Zone BBS Addict) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 10:34:06

Are we talking Natal in Brazil? If so, wasn't it so named because Natal is the Portuguese name for Christmas, after the date it was founded (December 25th 1598)?

## Post 39 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 11:02:01

Lucy, you get the gold star, first sighted by Vasco Da Gama on christmas day. so give us your worst.

## Post 40 by Luce (Zone BBS Addict) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 12:48:26

Ok then, here we go... Can you name the 3 types of hormones which originate from the adrenal cortex?

## Post 41 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 13:29:14

the cells of the adrenal cortex secrete a variety of steroid hormones. These fall into three classes:
glucocorticoids (e.g., cortisol)
mineralocorticoids (e.g., aldosterone)
androgens (e.g., testosterone)

## Post 42 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 13:35:36

Since I found this interesting and found some stuff on this on Google I am copying and pasting the answer, the correct answer is still obviously CG's and she will be the one to ask the next question:
Mineralocorticoids are secreted by the outermost region of the adrenal cortex. The principal mineralocorticoid is aldosterone, which acts to conserve sodium
ions and water in the body. Glucocorticoids are secreted by the middle region of the adrenal cortex. The principal glucocorticoid is cortisol, which increases
blood
glucose
levels.
The third group of steroids secreted by the adrenal cortex is the gonadocorticoids, or sex hormones. These are secreted by the innermost region. Male hormones,
androgens, and female hormones, estrogens, are secreted in minimal amounts in both sexes by the adrenal cortex, but their effect is usually masked by the
hormones from the testes and ovaries. In females, the masculinization effect of androgen secretion may become evident after menopause, when estrogen levels
from the ovaries decrease.

## Post 43 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 13:39:57

When is KWANZAA celebrated and tell perhaps one of its seven principals.

## Post 44 by shea (number one pulse checking chicky) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 13:46:39

Kwanzaa is based on the Nguzo Saba (seven guiding principles), one for each day of the observance, and is celebrated from December 26th to January 1st.
List of 7 items
• Umoja (oo-MO-jah) Unity stresses the importance of togetherness for the family and the community, which is reflected in the African saying, "I am We,"
or "I am because We are."
• Kujichagulia (koo-gee-cha-goo-LEE-yah) Self-Determination requires that we define our common interests and make decisions that are in the best interest
of our family and community.
• Ujima (oo-GEE-mah) Collective Work and Responsibility reminds us of our obligation to the past, present and future, and that we have a role to play in
the community, society, and world.
• Ujamaa (oo-JAH-mah) Cooperative economics emphasizes our collective economic strength and encourages us to meet common needs through mutual support.
• Nia (NEE-yah) Purpose encourages us to look within ourselves and to set personal goals that are beneficial to the community.
• Kuumba (koo-OOM-bah) Creativity makes use of our creative energies to build and maintain a strong and vibrant community.
• Imani (ee-MAH-nee) Faith focuses on honoring the best of our traditions, draws upon the best in ourselves, and helps us strive for a higher level of life

## Post 45 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 13:54:09

I've been designated to ask the next question on behalf of Angel77 who is feeling indisposed at this very moment but wants to keeep the game going .. so here it goes:
What happened at 10:02 local time on August the 27th 1883 that proved fatal for a lot of people ... how many people are estimated to have died in the event and, for an extra point, what famous character/book did the event help to inspire?

## Post 46 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 15:40:16

The event you refer too brew was the eruption of the volcano on Krakatoa. I'm not sure that anybody knows exactly how many people were killed, especially if you take into account the knock on effects of the disaster, however the number that i came up with was that at least 36,417 people were killed. I give up on the bonus point part of the question though because I'm a quitter. hehehehe.

## Post 47 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 15:44:16

&LT;grin> well done Harp. The numer is accurate, to my best nowledge. The ash and small particles from the volcano were thrown into the stratisphere and caused global temperatures to fall by at lesat 0.5 degrees Celsius, some places more than that. In Switzerland a group of youn peole went to a vacation spot in June the following year where the weather was usually warm and nice and sunny, however this June the weather was cold, lots of freaky storms and very spooky weather, a girl in the group, I believe, was inspired by this gloom and sat down to write a book .. which later was published and thus the story about Frankenstein was created.
I'll look up the actual names and circumstances but Frankenstein is what I was looking for, also a famous painting called "the Scream" is said to be influenced by the erruption.
Cheers
-B

## Post 48 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 17:39:02

Okay then guy's and girls. It's research time again, though I don't think this one will keep anybody held for too long!
In turms of populous, what is the biggest city in the World, and approximately how many people are living there?

## Post 49 by bashful (professional hypocrite) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 20:02:05

I may be wrong, but I've come up with Mumbai (Bombay), India with a population of
11,914,398

## Post 50 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 20:51:44

good guess meg but it's not the answer i have. try again.

## Post 51 by Ukulele<3 (Try me... You know you want to.) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 22:10:10

Hmmm Dan. My guess is Tokyo, Japan with 34.5 million people living there. lol Is that right?
*sexy*

## Post 52 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005 23:25:25

Tokyo for sure but my numbers say 28 million 25000 people (from U.S. census bearau and World Atlas web page).

## Post 53 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 2:00:12

Weldone to you both. Tokyo indeed was the answer that i came up with. like you michelle i had a figure that was around the 34000000 mark but who really knows. after all as much as anything else it really does depend on where you are counting from.
anyway you got it first misses wang! &LT;grin>, so it's over to you for, what i make, question 16 in this ever expending quest for knowledge.

## Post 54 by Ukulele<3 (Try me... You know you want to.) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 8:36:38

Ha ha ha. Dan the Perambulator! heheheh Ok, I thought of a new question and don't know if it will be a hard one or not. lolol But here goes nothing!
When and where were fortune cookies actually invented and by whom?
Any takers?
*sexy*

## Post 55 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 8:56:45

Fortune cookies are usually served in Chinese-American restaurants after a meal is completed, and the fortune cookie must be broken open to obtain the fortune. The fortune cookie is a U.S. invention that is often thought to be from China. Fortune cookies are not known in the Chinese food culture. It wasn’t until the 1990s that the fortune cookies actually arrived in China. In 1993, New York-based Wonton Food Company began producing the treats in China. They were advertised as “Genuine American Fortune Cookies.”
Some historians think that the inspiration for Fortune Cookies come from the 14th century when Chinese soldiers slipped messages into mooncakes to help coordinate their overthrow of Mongolian invaders. The story goes that Chinese partriots sought permission from Mongolian leaders to honor the longevity of the Mongolian emperor by giving gifts to friends and family. The gifts to be given out were round mooncakes. So the Chinese hid the message containing "Revolt on the fifteenth of the eighth moon." These were the instructions to coordinate the uprising which successfully formed the basis of the Ming Dynasty. It is also a Chinese custom when children are born for the families to send out cake rolls with a message inside announcing the birth of the child. However, it is a matter of debate as to where in American these cookies were first made.
One story says that Canton-native David Jung, a Los Angeles baker and restauranteur, began making cookies with thin slips of paper inside sometime around 1920. Jung handed out these cookies, which contained words of encouragement, to the poor and homeless people on the streets. He later founded the Hong Kong Noodle Company and produced fortune cookies.
Another story says that Makota Hagiwara, a landscape architect and caretaker of the Japanese Tea Gardens, made Fortune Cookies in Los Angeles in the early 1900s. He created cookies bearing thank you notes, which helped him in a dispute with the city’s major. He displayed his creation at the 1915 Panama-Pacific Exhibition held in San Francisco. The Court of Historical Reviews and Appeals, a San Francisco mock court, ruled that San Francisco is the rightful “fortune cookie capital of the world” in 1983.
For almost 40 years, the fortune cookies were made using chopsticks. In 1960, Edward Louie, owner of the Lotus Fortune Cookie Company in San Francisco, invented a machine that automatically placed the fortune inside the 3-inch wafer and folded it. Today fortune cookies come in all sizes and flavors. The fortune they carry contain messages from Bible Verses to lottery number to X-rated.
If you are in San Francisco, you can go to the Golden Gate Fortune Cookie Factory to see how fortune cookies are made.
http://www.sanfranciscochinatown.com/culture/fortunecookie.html

## Post 56 by Ukulele<3 (Try me... You know you want to.) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 9:08:23

Hmmm. Connie. I actually thought it was Charles Jung, not David Jung, who invented them. lol And it was in 1918 but I could be wrong too. But I'll give you the next question all the same! lol I don't know about this Japanese guy either... lolol Now I'm confused! But it's your turn!
*sexy*
P.S. If anyone can solve this cookie question and figure out how I got Charles from David then let me know.

## Post 57 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 9:16:21

Hehehe Michelle.. I don't know, I simply checked on the web. here have a Chinese cookie while you give consideration to this question and keeping with a bit of a theme: When does the Chinese New Year begin in 2005 and what Lunar Year is it as the Year of the Rooster is ushered in?

## Post 58 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 9:33:19

...oh I meant in the year 2006.. *guess this year has been so good I desire to live it again! *smile

## Post 59 by Resonant (Find me alive.) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 11:23:28

On the western calendar, chinese new year 2006 is on January 29th. I might have to look up the year of the Rooster though...

## Post 60 by Resonant (Find me alive.) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 11:43:33

The year of the Yiyou, or year of the Rooster, that is, 2005, is 4702-4703 on the chinese calendar.

## Post 61 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 11:56:33

Resonant, Get ready to take on the next question if you please.. (Good it is that we can learn together) The date I had was and perhaps this was for 2005 rather than the upcoming 2005..??? : Feb. 9-26
Usher in the Year of the Rooster http://cityguide.aol.com/sanfrancisco/chinesenewyearparade/
Lunar Year 4703 begins on Feb. 9 and marks the most important and elaborate annual holiday for Chinese families.
The Tradition:
The lunar year arrives in late January or early February, when good-luck red lanterns line the streets and spectators bundle up for the biggest Chinese New Year's Parade outside of Asia. Stilt walkers, lion dancers, acrobats and Miss Chinatown U.S.A. highlight the festival; the grand finale is marked by the 201-foot-long Golden Dragon and the boom of 600,000 firecrackers -- very loud firecrackers. Crafted by opera costumers in Foshan, China, the fearsome beast undulates with the help of 100 members of the martial arts group White Crane. The huge event is a colorful reminder of the ethnic community's storied history: Chinese immigrants moved to the Bay Area during the Gold Rush; more than 30,000 people of Asian ancestry now live in Chinatown alone.
This Year:
2005 (lunar year 4703) is the Year of the Rooster. Those born during this year (1945, 1957, 1969, 1981, 1993) are considered to be aggressive, industrious and highly intelligent. Starting Feb. 5, Chinatown explodes with street fairs, flower markets, pageants, fun runs and mountains of food, all leading up to the big event.

## Post 62 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 12:02:59

*Connie considers Harp must be having a field day for I did it again! ..rather upcoming year 2006!!! *smile and Dan this is an excellent game you have started. Connie

## Post 63 by Resonant (Find me alive.) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 12:20:45

OK, we've been learning lots, so here's a pointless trivia question. What's Donald Duck's middle name?

## Post 64 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 14:02:39

okay miss erin, his full name is, donald Fauntleroy duck.
o and i'm glad to be of service connie

## Post 65 by Resonant (Find me alive.) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 14:26:35

Well done Quizzmaster! go on, stump us.

## Post 66 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 14:45:27

The Titanic sank on 15 April 1912, but as a nasty little brain teaser, What was the captains name?

## Post 67 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 16:18:14

Edward J. Smith, Captain.

## Post 68 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 16:52:10

your getting too good at this game miss connie! hehehe. back over to you for the next question.

## Post 69 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 17:13:07

The Titanic sideswiped the iceberg at about 11:40 p.m. on April 14. The impact caused a number of small cracks and failed riveted seams in the ship's hull. Seawater flooded through the bow of the ship. About 2 1/2 hours later, the vessel broke in two and sank...so I have read. How many were the survivors?

## Post 70 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Friday, 21-Oct-2005 17:16:34

and an extra point if you can name he first to arrive rescue ship.

## Post 71 by Vulpine (Generic Zoner) on Saturday, 22-Oct-2005 12:21:28

705 people survived and the first ship on the scene was the carpathia.

## Post 72 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Saturday, 22-Oct-2005 12:40:20

Timus1980 that's a point and an extra point as well in your favor. Now your turn to get the minds stimulated to thinking.

## Post 73 by Vulpine (Generic Zoner) on Sunday, 23-Oct-2005 4:15:14

What Chemical element, discovered in 1737, has a melting point of 2723.0 ºF And a boiling point of 5198.0ºF

## Post 74 by Puggle (I love my life!) on Sunday, 23-Oct-2005 5:10:23

Cobalt, (symbol Co) Was discovered in 1737 by George Brandt.
It's atomic number is 27, and as the Question stated it's melting and boiling points are. 1495.0 °C (1768.15 K, 2723.0 °F) and Boiling Point: 2870.0 °C (3143.15 K, 5198.0 °F)
It's clasified as a transition Metal, and is obtained from arsenic, oxygen, sulfur, and cobaltine. It's used in Special glasses, magnets, and ceramics. Cobalt derives from the german word Kobalt, or Kobold Meaning Evil Spiret.
For thoughs of you studying chemestry. The Information was obtained from
http://www.chemicalelements.com/elements/co.html

## Post 75 by Puggle (I love my life!) on Sunday, 23-Oct-2005 5:15:45

right now to think of a doozy for you all, back soon.

## Post 76 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 23-Oct-2005 19:26:08

just don't ask us what a puggle is! hehehe. remember some of us already know!

## Post 77 by Puggle (I love my life!) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 7:47:16

what is an epithalamium.

## Post 78 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 7:51:22

A lyric ode in honor of a bride and bridegroom.
[Latin, from Greek epithalamion
, from neuter of
epithalamios, of a wedding :
epi-
, epi- + thalamos, bridal chamber. taken from dictionary.com

## Post 79 by Puggle (I love my life!) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 11:21:50

good enough for me Kev, all I had was a poem for a wedding. over to you then.

## Post 80 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 12:09:17

How did Grinling Gibbons contribute to the beauty of Saint Paul's?

## Post 81 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 12:49:49

this one is a toughy kev. was he responsible for the pulpit at St. Paul's? i think that's the answer your looking for anyway. lol.

## Post 82 by krisme (Ancient Zoner) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 13:05:21

St. Paul's has that huge dome right? Was he the guy who was responsible for that?

## Post 83 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 13:12:00

You are both incorrect so please continue to guess.

## Post 84 by Vulpine (Generic Zoner) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 13:22:04

choir stalls and organ case

## Post 85 by Blue Velvet (I've got the platinum golden silver bronze poster award.) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 13:25:36

Well I know he was a famous wood carver from 17th century. I don't feel like doing research, but I'm guessing he must have done some wood carving somewhere in the cathedral?

## Post 86 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 13:48:52

He was responsible for most of the carving in the cathedral, so CL, you have it, Tim you may have the right items, I don't know, the information I had didn't say which carving, just a good deal of the carving.

## Post 87 by Blue Velvet (I've got the platinum golden silver bronze poster award.) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 16:41:55

Okay here goes: What was the name of the first Hotel in the United States to implement concierge service? And in what city is this still famous hotel?

## Post 88 by Toonhead71 (move over school!) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 20:38:20

From what I found, I believe it was The Four Seasons.

## Post 89 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 20:57:58

Don't have a hotel name...perhaps in the City of Boston...?? Totally a guess

## Post 90 by silly_singer (The girl who's always lost in a melody) on Monday, 24-Oct-2005 21:08:15

Just a total stab in the dark, but How about the Grand Plaza In New York City?

## Post 91 by Blue Velvet (I've got the platinum golden silver bronze poster award.) on Tuesday, 25-Oct-2005 10:04:25

Okay it appears some hints are in order. Think West Coast. And the first concierge in the U.S. has the same name as a famous writer. And here's the part I found hard to believe when watching a show on The Travel Channel, this man did not start concierge service in luxury hotels in this country until the 1970's.

## Post 92 by Puggle (I love my life!) on Tuesday, 25-Oct-2005 10:41:19

ok, so far all I've found is the 4 seasons but they claim to have introduced europian style concierge in 1961 nd it was a guy called sharp. but that's not right is it.

## Post 93 by Blue Velvet (I've got the platinum golden silver bronze poster award.) on Tuesday, 25-Oct-2005 10:51:37

That's not the information I have.

## Post 94 by icequeen (move over school!) on Tuesday, 25-Oct-2005 11:19:09

Fairmont in San Francisco

## Post 95 by Blue Velvet (I've got the platinum golden silver bronze poster award.) on Tuesday, 25-Oct-2005 12:59:55

Thank God someone got it. It is indeed the Fairmont, and the gentleman who was the first concierge was named Tom Wolfe. He was born in New York but moved to Europe and received his training in England and France and then came back to U.S. and wanted to provide the type of personal concierge service in luxury hotels that Europe had.
And now over to you icequeen if you want to continue this game.

## Post 96 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Wednesday, 26-Oct-2005 0:46:22

so it's over to you then the queen of the ice. a question if you would

## Post 97 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Wednesday, 26-Oct-2005 18:44:35

well, i'm not wishing to rain on anybody's parade here but things seem to have ground to a halt for want of a question. i'll give ice queen another day or so to post one but if not, i'll start things going again. this rolling quiz seems to have been quite popular so it would be cool to keep it chugging along. so if your reading this miss queen, we're eagerly awaiting your question.

## Post 98 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Wednesday, 26-Oct-2005 19:49:22

Mr. Dan, I think it is resonable to give up to 24 hours for a person to take their turn but if they fail to respond within a time frame *that you in prticular considers to be a realistic time frame given you have authored this game, then Yes, it should go back to yourself to ask the next question. This is too good of a Post/Game that you have started to have it come to a stand still so abruptly and leaves several of us waiting with a desire to continue on with it. Connie

## Post 99 by icequeen (move over school!) on Thursday, 27-Oct-2005 19:25:07

Sorry to keep everyone waiting. So without further ado, the nex question. What is the name of a band from Czech Republic that has produced tracks such as "hear me out," and "let go"?

## Post 100 by The Luggage (Zone BBS Addict) on Friday, 28-Oct-2005 20:01:18

I think the band you are talking about is Frou Frou?
Matt

## Post 101 by icequeen (move over school!) on Saturday, 29-Oct-2005 13:12:29

Congratulations Matt!! Please, do bring forth the next question.

## Post 102 by The Luggage (Zone BBS Addict) on Saturday, 29-Oct-2005 17:08:16

OK here goes ... Who wrote the following, and where did they write it?
This royal throne of kings, this sceptred isle,
This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,
This other Eden, demi-paradise,
This fortress built by Nature for herself
Against infection and the hand of war,
This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,—
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.

## Post 103 by The Luggage (Zone BBS Addict) on Sunday, 30-Oct-2005 17:11:45

OK OK, looks like a clue is needed! Hahahaha! The clue is that the quote is from a play. So I'm looking for the name of the playwrite, and the play that this quote comes from. Have fun, Matt!

## Post 104 by shea (number one pulse checking chicky) on Sunday, 30-Oct-2005 19:48:30

Lol i'm probably way off but oh well shrugs, is it Shakespeare’s Richard II

## Post 105 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Sunday, 30-Oct-2005 22:26:06

Yes Shae, that is is ;) feel free to bring forth the next question *smiles* I ha heard this quote nd confirmed it through web search. :)

## Post 106 by shea (number one pulse checking chicky) on Monday, 31-Oct-2005 1:09:18

yayay, go me! heheheh! Where did the rumor that there were drunken Munchkin orgies and parties during filming of The Wizard of Oz
come from? And on what show did Judy Garland say where this rumor came from. Extra point if you can come up with the year that she appeared on this show! And nooo, michelle it has nothing to do with Jelly o saki! heheheh

## Post 107 by The Luggage (Zone BBS Addict) on Monday, 31-Oct-2005 4:56:08

well done Shea! Spot on! Hugs Matt!

## Post 108 by shea (number one pulse checking chicky) on Monday, 31-Oct-2005 5:06:25

thanks matt, huggles yayayay go me happy dance! heheheh! smiles, shea

## Post 109 by Puggle (I love my life!) on Tuesday, 01-Nov-2005 5:43:34

clues chicky? please?

## Post 110 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Tuesday, 01-Nov-2005 6:19:04

yes, i must confess that so far this one has got me stumped too!

## Post 111 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Tuesday, 01-Nov-2005 9:40:03

I believe the rumour was created more or less by the media, however Judy herself appeared on the Jack Paar show and joked about similar incidents with the Munchkin actors so she really flamed that storyherself.

## Post 112 by shea (number one pulse checking chicky) on Tuesday, 01-Nov-2005 9:50:13

yayayay, go B! heheh your turn with the question!

## Post 113 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Tuesday, 01-Nov-2005 11:12:19

Hmm, ok, I've done this way back on HotBraille but want something that is not too difficult for a change. :)
Which band am I asking about and what is the guitarist's name that left the group?
The group formed in the late 1980s in the UK, the original guitarist (a woman) left the group around 1989 to prsue her own career/band (extra point if you can name her and the band she formed, they have at least two albums out and were fairly well known in the indie UK world), the guitarist who replaced her has been called one of the best guitarist of the 1990s, stealing a lot of influence from the Smiths but also added a lot of personal touches. Together this band released 3 singles in 1992 that put them firmly on the map as one of the UK's best bands, Q magazine went as fr as calling them the best band of England in 1992. AFter a fairly well received first album in 1993 issues started coming up and eventually the gutarist left the group during the recordings of their second and most acclaimed album in 1994. That album was released that year and the band replaced the guy with a guitarist (only 17 years old) and a keyboardist and made a few more albums, the first of which was pretty successful. The latest two albums have had only like warm reception and most people think the band is hardly a shadow of their former selves. The band split up last year and the singer and the former guitarist (who walkedout) formed another band and already have an album out. :)
Enough hints *smles* what is the band name (and bonus points if you want).
cheers
-B

## Post 114 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Tuesday, 01-Nov-2005 11:32:15

aah sorry about the horrendous typing of thatpost, even by my rather lax standards &LT;grin> but I've been busy at work .. still waiting on a reply. ;)

## Post 115 by Puggle (I love my life!) on Tuesday, 01-Nov-2005 12:21:37

the bande is Suede, and the original female guitarest was Justine Frischmann

## Post 116 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Tuesday, 01-Nov-2005 12:45:48

hehe well done, of course you did forget that the guitarist I was asking about was bernard Butler, but the question was a bit confusing and you did tell me in a quick note you found it :) so all points and, no, I did not help her at all with this one &LT;grin> over to you. *smiles*

## Post 117 by Puggle (I love my life!) on Tuesday, 01-Nov-2005 14:37:19

this song will be way to easy for the aussies so maybe they'll be nice and not answer, but it's all I can think of at 6.30 in the morning. In the australian folk song Woltsing Matilda. Who, or What is Matilda. And by whom was the song written.

## Post 118 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Tuesday, 01-Nov-2005 15:14:26

These notes I found from:http://www.hamilton.net.au/matilda.html -- Waltzing Matilda is, briefly, a song about a tramp who camps by a creek and steals a sheep. Three policemen arrive; rather than submit to capture, the tramp commits suicide by drowning himself in the creek.
It's not exactly in the same league as " The Star-Spangled Banner " or " La Marseillaise", but it's the song that Australians get teary-eyed over when they hear it played a long way from home. The official anthem, by the way, is " Advance Australia Fair"; on Royal occasions in Australia, " God Save our Queen " is played.
Why do Australians find Waltzing Matilda so unutterably poignant? I'm not sure, but I think the answer lies deep in the Australian psyche. Waltzing Matilda is very much a nationalist song.
The tramp steals a sheep; he then chooses to die at his own hand for this trifling crime - as though the sheep's life were more valuable than his own. Remember that Australia was colonised by convicts sentenced to "transportation" from England, often for trivial property offences; Australians are still suspicious of authority, and cynical about the pomposity and hypocrisy of the judicial and police systems.
Waltzing Matilda - to me, at least - brings thoughts of the slaughter of Australian troops at Gallipoli (Turkey) in 1915. Massive incompetence on the part of British politicians (chiefly Winston Churchill) and generals led to a death toll that hit every town and every city in what was then still a tiny nation.
The cynicism about war and the concept of "Empire" is elegantly expressed in Eric Bogle's " And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda ". You can hear a few bars of this in RealAudio this by clicking here.
There's an entire web site devoted to Waltzing Matilda at www.waltzingmatilda.com, and also some urban legend debunking at www.urbanlegends.com/songs/waltzing_matilda.html.
Waltzing Matilda is sometimes performed as a brisk march; but I'd much rather hear it played in sad, almost wistful measures.
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Once a jolly swagman camped by a billabong,
Under the shade of a coolibah tree,
And he sang as he watched and waited till his billy boiled,
"Who'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?
Waltzing Matilda, Waltzing Matilda,
Who'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?"
And he sang as he watched and waited till his billy boiled,
"Who'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?"
Down came a jumbuck to drink at the billabong:
Up jumped the swagman and grabbed him with glee.
And he sang as he shoved that jumbuck in his tucker-bag,
"You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me.
Waltzing Matilda, Waltzing Matilda,
You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me."
And he sang as he shoved that jumbuck in his tucker-bag,
"You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me."
Up rode a squatter, mounted on his thoroughbred;
Down came the troopers, one, two, three:
"Who's that jolly jumbuck you've got in your tucker-bag?
You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me!
Waltzing Matilda, Waltzing Matilda,
You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me.
Who's that jolly jumbuck you've got in your tucker-bag?
You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me!"
Up jumped the swagman and sprang into the billabong;
"You'll never catch me alive!" said he;
And his ghost may be heard as you pass by that billabong,
"You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me!
Waltzing Matilda, Waltzing Matilda,
You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me!"
And his ghost may be heard as you pass by that billabong,
"You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me!"
* swagman: an intinerant farmhand, carrying his "swag" (his blankets) rolled into a cylinder
* billabong: a creek (normally with a pronounced "oxbow" bend)
* coolibah tree: a eucalypt (gum) tree )
* waited till his billy boiled: a billy is a tin can used to heat water over a campfire to make tea
* jumbuck: sheep
* tucker-bag: bag or box used to store food
* squatter: farmer/grazier who simply found good land and took possession; some became extremely rich
* trooper: policeman or soldier on horseback

## Post 119 by Puggle (I love my life!) on Tuesday, 01-Nov-2005 22:10:46

interesting facts cg. I didn't actually know some of that stuff, but it doesn't say what exactly matilda is

## Post 120 by Blue Velvet (I've got the platinum golden silver bronze poster award.) on Tuesday, 01-Nov-2005 22:45:41

Matilda is a kangaroo I think. Hope it's okay that I answered part of the question. CG can come up with the next question if she wants.

## Post 121 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 6:00:57

Well, goodness! are we not all learning! *smile From the first line I suppose my answer would be that Matilida is...a song of a tramp and therefore a... a tramp *sorry Matilida!!!...and apparently this is was not the case. If kangaroo is correct then please by all means cat lover you proceed with the next question.

## Post 122 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 8:27:01

the song waltsing matilda was written in 1895 by Banjo Paterson. the term Matilda refers to a swagman's bundle, a swagman being the australian term for a hobo :)

## Post 123 by Puggle (I love my life!) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 8:28:37

yay clair got it, your turn chicky!

## Post 124 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 8:35:58

ok here goes..
We've all heard of people being referred to as cretins, however, cretinism is an actual recognized medical condition.
so, what, medically, is a cretin.

## Post 125 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 8:40:42

A congenital condition caused by a deficiency of thyroid hormone during prenatal
development and characterized in childhood by dwarfed stature, mental retardation,
dystrophy of the bones, and a low basal metabolism. Also called
congenital myxedema.
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## Post 126 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 8:43:47

spot on kev, your turn :)

## Post 127 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 8:53:38

What was Margaret Thatcher's first proffession?

## Post 128 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 9:56:08

Hmm, I'm not sure but I'll have a shot.
As for work her parents ran a grocery store so most likely that was her first job (even if my resource did not exactly state that explicitly). Once in university she studied Chemistry so that was the first profession she was aiming for, even if she got involved in the political process right away. So I guess '"cchemistry" is the answer you're looking for, later she studied as a lawyer though but politics played a prominent role in her life from the very beginnings of university.
cheers
-B

## Post 129 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 10:09:54

She was actually a research chemist. so I'll let you have it. Go B, another question.

## Post 130 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 10:29:43

ok, this one may or may not be tricky ;) but it'll clear up a very annoying misunderstanding that I always here in the U.S.
Who was the first European man to discover Greenland (his first name and his nick name .. he normally goes by that) and why did he decide to call it Greenland. A bonus point is given for you telling me what forced him to leave the country he resided in previously and also what his son (who is perhaps more famous) is famous for.

## Post 131 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 10:43:12

…then Matilda WAS a tramp! Yikes!!! For "Tramp" and "hobo" in this area where I am from are considered the same… Now to give further consideration to Wildebrews question…Greenland you speak of… *off researching

## Post 132 by Puggle (I love my life!) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 10:53:03

cg, matilda was his swag. or his bundle of blankets that he carries on his back. and yes, also off researching this nextquestion.

## Post 133 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 11:12:48

* swagman: an intinerant farmhand, carrying his "swag" (his blankets) rolled into a cylinder ...these words from the song... so a Swagman who is an intinerant farmhand that is also considered a Tramp or hobo is carrying his swag or blankets, like I suppose a sleeping bag of sorts hmmm, he is dancing with his bedroll or swag...interesting... Greenland awaits!

## Post 134 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 14:34:41

In regards to Wildebrew's questions the following is info I found: History. The ancestors of the Inuit arrived in Greenland between 2500 and 2000 B.C. They lived in small communities along the coast and survived by hunting and fishing. See Inuit (History).
Norse explorers from Iceland are believed to have sighted Greenland about A.D. 875. Eric the Red, a Norseman, sailed to the island about 982. He brought the first group of settlers from Iceland about 985. His son Leif Ericson led what was probably the first voyage of Europeans to the mainland of America about 1000 ....and Also: Lief Erickson --
Lief was an Icelandic explorer who was thought to be one of the first Europeans to set foot on North American soil. Lief was the second son of Eric the Red. Lief was a sailor like hie father, Eric the Red. He voyaged from Greenland all the way to Norway, the homeland of his Family, shortly before the year 1000.
One tradition states that Lief was converted into Christianity by King Olaf 1. King Olaf later sent him back to Greenland to win the Vikings faith over to Christianity. While Lief was journeying westward he lost hie way on the North American shore.
On his travels back to Greenland, Lief stummbled upon a wrecked trading vessel whose crew he rescued, for this deed he recieved the entire cargo and the nickname, Lief the Lucky. When he finally reached Greenland, he carried out his duty of bringing Christianity to the settlers.

## Post 135 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 15:12:34

CG is doing a good job but she's not there yet, Eric the Red is correct and Leif his son is famous for having "presumably" been the first European man to discover America. However the two questons remain, why did Eric the REd name the country Greenland and why was he forced to leave Iceland (which ultimately led to him deciding to settle in Greenland)

## Post 136 by Vulpine (Generic Zoner) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 17:08:08

He was forced to leave iceland after some killings although the people he killed appears to be unknown. He called it greenland in order to encourage people to settle there.

## Post 137 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 17:31:26

Well done ;) the people he killed were not unknown but the specific circumstances don't matter Eric's saga the REd cronicles the whole affair. He was outlawed for 3 years (meaning if he did not leave the country he was anyone's for the killing), generally people who suffered such punishments went to Norway, however he had been outlawed from there as well (very violent man he was) so he decieded on a little advertizing campaign for Greenland (hence the name).
Since both you and Connie got parts of the question let I am going to allow myself to say whichever of you logs in and thinks of a question first can post it next. :)
Cheers
-B

## Post 138 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2005 18:46:16

According to Indian Legend, Long ago, in the land that is today Wisconsin, Mother Bear and her two cubs were driven into Lake Michigan by a raging forest fire. The cubs swam strongly but the distance and the water proved too much for them. They fell further and further behind and ultimately slipped beneath the waves. When Mother Bear reached the Michigan shore, she climbed to the top of a bluff and peered back across the water, searching vainly for her cubs. The Great Spirit saw her and took pity on her plight. He raised two Islands to mark the place where her cubs vanished and laid a slumber upon Mother Bear. Please tell me the name of the two Islands that mark the place of where the cubs vanished as well as the name of the Tribal Indian group this Legend stems from.

## Post 139 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Thursday, 03-Nov-2005 13:48:45

Perhaps these clues will be of assistance to you as you search for these facts of the Legend Of The Sleeping Bear Sand Dunes that is a part of the National Parks System where cooling waters of Lake Michigan flow as dunes mile high rise heavenwards and seagulls take flight ever soaring to new destinations.

## Post 140 by maddog (I'll have the last word, thank you!) on Thursday, 03-Nov-2005 17:37:44

pssh. Well, got me!

## Post 141 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Friday, 04-Nov-2005 5:49:28

Hehehehe Maddog, "got you!" *smile... to Mr. Dan, originator of this delightful quiz that seems at the moment to not be rolling along, perhaps another hint is required… The Legend of Sleeping Bear Sand Dunes can be found at the following web sites and if ever the chance to visit Michigan/USA I think you would find this an exciting place to visit if climbing is something you are given to do along with swimming and canoeing. When at my Northern Michigan home I have opportunity to live approx a 45 minute drive from these Dunes. http://www.leelanau.com/dunes/dunes/legend-sleeping-bear.shtml 0r http://www.sleepingbeardunes.com/ or http://www.leelanau.com/dunes/dunes/

## Post 142 by shea (number one pulse checking chicky) on Monday, 07-Nov-2005 13:04:35

um yeah, i think it's North and South Manitou? Am i correct? heheheheh!

## Post 143 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Monday, 07-Nov-2005 16:16:08

Well if Angel77 hasn't surpassed everyone and came to have the correct answer! *smile ...your turn now Angel77 to set this game rolling...

## Post 144 by shea (number one pulse checking chicky) on Friday, 11-Nov-2005 8:42:56

yeah, finally, have a question! heheheh sorry it took so long! Here it goes..... how many feet in 1 fathom

## Post 145 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Friday, 11-Nov-2005 8:52:06

I believe it is 6.

## Post 146 by shea (number one pulse checking chicky) on Friday, 11-Nov-2005 9:27:09

you go Kev! hehehhehe

## Post 147 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Friday, 11-Nov-2005 13:35:58

Where did the worlds first controlled nuclear reaction occur? and in what year?

## Post 148 by Luce (Zone BBS Addict) on Friday, 11-Nov-2005 14:16:42

Was it in Chicago on the 2nd December 1942?

## Post 149 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Friday, 11-Nov-2005 14:54:25

Lucy, you get the gold star, go give us another question.

## Post 150 by changedheart421 (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Friday, 11-Nov-2005 18:21:59

i just started looking at this game never new it was here till now. great one. so lucy ask the question so i can try to answer.

## Post 151 by Luce (Zone BBS Addict) on Saturday, 12-Nov-2005 12:16:11

Ok then... here goes: Who wrote the theme tune to everyone's favourite aussie soap, Neighbours?

## Post 152 by PorkInCider (Wind assisted.) on Saturday, 12-Nov-2005 16:33:44

Lucy, just a guess, haven't been looking this one up, but have a feeling it was a guy named David crocker.

## Post 153 by Luce (Zone BBS Addict) on Sunday, 13-Nov-2005 10:44:41

Nope. Nice try though. Am looking for two people, if that helps. Any other suggestions?

## Post 154 by Luce (Zone BBS Addict) on Sunday, 13-Nov-2005 10:45:33

Nope. Nice try though. Am looking for two people, if that helps. Any other suggestions?

## Post 155 by Luce (Zone BBS Addict) on Wednesday, 23-Nov-2005 18:04:20

awwwww, does no one like my question then? :(

## Post 156 by Grace (I've now got the ggold prolific poster award! wahoo! well done to me!) on Wednesday, 23-Nov-2005 20:23:40

## Post 157 by Puggle (I love my life!) on Thursday, 24-Nov-2005 6:11:11

Neighbours' theme song is perhaps one of the most recognisable musical scores ever composed. Tony Hatch who wrote the melody and his wife at the time -
singer, Jackie Trent, who wrote the lyrics are still listed in the programme's production credits to this day - despite the four variations of their original
composition that have topped and tailed Neighbours episodes since. In 1985, Hatch wrote the original version of "Neighbours" while Trent produced accompanying
lyrics. Previously, Hatch had been responsible for composing the theme songs to Crossroads, Emmerdale Farm, The World at War, Sportsnight and M*A*S*H,
among others. But, it's undoubtedly the "Neighbours music", as it is affectionately known, that has become his most famous composition.
Neighbours first aired in March 1985 in Australia, episode one opening with an electric piano rendition of the original opening variation. Following episodes
right up until 1990 opened with the familiar chorus of:
# Neighbours, everybody needs good Neighbours
With a little understanding, you can find the perfect blend
Neighbours, should be there for one another
That's when good Neighbours become good friends #
The deep-voiced artist, whose voice provided the lyrics was Australian actor and singer, Barry Crocker. Tony Hatch had composed a longer variation on a
TV-version of the theme, suitable for use as a closing credits accompaniment. Yet, the Channel Seven transmitted episodes never used the full version of
this closing theme, opting to shorten some of the chords heard after such climaxes as "...a better day..."; "...footstep away..." and "...perfect blend...."
- which managed to skim around ten seconds off the full length version. In 1986, however, when Neighbours went to air on TEN, that channel used the full
uncut television version for the first time. From now, until 1992, Neighbours would close each day to the sound of:
# Neighbours, everybody needs good Neighbours
Just a friendly wave each morning, helps to make a better day
Neighbours, need to get to know each other
Next door is only a footstep away
Neighbours, everybody needs good Neighbours
With a little understanding, you can find the perfect blend
Neighbours, should be there for one another
That's when good Neighbours become good friends #
Version one of the theme song is now regarded by most people, viewers and non-viewers alike, as the "proper" Neighbours theme - i.e. suggesting that all
versions since then have been inferior to it. This is, of course, a matter of personal opinion, but there's little doubt that the original rendition evokes
true golden memories of "classic Neighbours". British fans, for example, who have been watching the show since its early days will recall the dramatic
climax of an episode, perhaps involving a perm-haired Kylie Minogue, quickly cutting into the gentle, yet hauntingly anonymous strains of Barry Crocker's
voice and the monotonous "B-D-A" and "B-D-G" piano chords.
By 1989, many traces of "old Neighbours" had disappeared. Scott, Charlene, Jane and Mike had gone, as had Daphne, Mrs Mangel and Gail. Perhaps in light
of this, it was decided that an updated version of the theme tune would be launched. Barry Crocker again provided the voice, but although the new version
retained the same lyrics as the previous one, the tempo was noticeably faster and the accompanying instruments were revised with less emphasis on the repetitive
piano chords used for the first version but a greater sense of the dramatic employed. In truth, Neighbours were trying to modernise a theme tune that was
pretty impossible to modernize. Without starting afresh and reworking the song's melody, there was little they could do to add some much needed zest to
the theme as it stood. Which, perhaps, is why version two of the theme sounds a little disjointed. Barry Crocker appears to struggle to keep up at times,
while the overall pace allows little room to fully deliver the lyrics as they were intended. However, this version of the theme tune remains the ultimate
favourite of many fans, including me. Perhaps it's the knowledge that Neighbours was desperately trying to modernize its brand image in the only way it
knew how, or that the dramatic rise as Crocker belts out # a footstep awaaaaaay.... # as the closing credits backdrop changed to the grainy shot of No.24
Ramsay Street, evokes memories in many fans. The opening song received the same treatment as the closing theme - but by 1990, it was decided to drop the
tradition opening titles sequence in favour of the Neighbours logo board and Grundy diamond device only. To accompany this edit, an old 20-second-or-so
piano melody from the 1980s was employed. Yet, after only a few weeks this was replaced with Barry Crocker-sung version:
# Neighbours, everybody needs good Neighbours #
By 1992, the powers that be concluded the music was in desperate need of changing and thus employed the talents of native music supremo, Peter Sullivan,
in re-arranging the song from scratch. The result was a definite step away from the first two versions, with the re-arranging of the lyrics, including
omitting some, being the most surprising alteration. Similarly, the younger, more pleasurable sounds of Greg Hind's voice and deliberate hints of jazz
in the music made this a theme that epitomizes Neighbours of the 1990s. This version of the theme song debuted at the beginning of episode 1681 in 1992,
in Australia. After two years of shortened opening themes, there was a welcome return to a longer music piece. Here lay the first indications of the lyrics'
re-arrangement:
# Neighbours, everybody needs good Neighbours
That's when good Neighbours become good friends #
Preceding the first words was a new seven-note bar that would remain as a standard "Neighbours piece" through 2001. This piece also made it to the closing
theme, preceding the first words, but following on from a reflective two-second jingling sound, originally, suitably, accompanying the scrolling Neighbours
logo. The closing theme now ran as follows:
# Neighbours, everybody needs good Neighbours
With a little understanding, you can find the perfect blend
Neighbours, should be there for one another
That's when good Neighbours become good friends
Oooh, Neighbours, should be there for one another
That's when good Neighbours become good friends #
A short, melodic interlude was adopted between both versus of # Neighbours, should be there... # and this has remained the standard format for the two full-TV
versions of closing theme that have followed.
In late 1994, episodes broadcast in Australia received brand new opening titles to reflect the change of characters at the time - most notable being the
introduction of the Kennedy family. The new titles were 36 seconds long - over 13 seconds longer than the previous opening theme, thus a new arrangement
was needed to accompany. Rather than record a brand new song to fit the time-limit, the programme's music director, Chris Pettifer, took the full closing
theme and edited it to fit the 36 second titles. The new opening theme ran:
# Neighbours, everybody needs good Neighbours
With a little understanding, you can find the perfect blend
That's when good Neighbours become good friends #
BBC Television, broadcasting Neighbours in the UK had decided that their policy of keeping closing credits' lengths relative to each particular programmes'
length would now be adopted on Neighbours broadcasts. Thus, early in 1995, the BBC asked for specially edited closing credits to be sent from Grundy's
in Australia, complete with shortened theme song to accompany. Grundy's sent over their new opening theme developed for Australian broadcasts a few months
previously, albeit with the familiar finale bar added on, which traditionally accompanied the Grundy spinning-diamond device on Neighbours episodes.
Lasting until the 1998 season finale episode, the third incarnation of "Neighbours" remains the longest serving version so far. 1999 episodes opened with
a new rendition - the first version to have been overseen by Chris Pettifer. However, just like the 1989 theme was a modernized version of the original;
the 1999 theme, it's fair to say, is little more than a slight re-jigging of the 1992 theme song. Pettifer removed some of the more "positive" notes, replacing
them with "negative" ones, and lessened the jazz influence to give the overall song a slightly more gritty, rock-based effect. Despite these changes, however,
little nods to the previous version made it through the transition, including the seven note bar used as an opening for the previous theme, now employed
at various stages throughout the new opening and closing themes, as well as the jingly notes, now used at the very end of the closing song. The lyrics
remained unaltered in the closing theme, save for the addition of a repetitive # That's when good Neighbours, become good Neighbours become good friends
# being used throughout 1999 and the early part of 2000, before being dropped. The opening theme, however, reverted to 23 seconds in length, and a new
arrangement resulted in:
# Neighbours, should be there for another
That's when good Neighbours become good friends #
Husband and wife team Paul Norton and Wendy Stapleton (soon to appear in Neighbours as Nina Tucker's mother, Trixie) provided the vocals - although poor
Wendy could barely be heard under the loud strains of her husband. In truth, version four mirrors version two in that an attempt to modernize the original
version of a particular theme didn't pay off. And, just as the 1989 theme was replaced in 1992 with an all new version; a similar happening occurred in
2002 with the 1999 rendition.
This time, third party involvement has ensured the success of this, the current theme. Steve Wade, best known as a member of famous Aussie group, The Little
River Band, oversaw the overall arrangement, which differs little from the previous two, while Melbournian singer, Janine Maunder, provides a female lead
voice for the first time ever. Lyrics remain unchanged on both opening and closing songs, with the main change being the adoption of a repetitive chord
set-up for the first time since versions one and two of the theme, providing a definite undertone for the entire song, and allowing such climaxes as "...find
the perfect blend..." to adopt the more traditional three note strain before breaking into "Neighbours, should be there...". BBC transimissions have continued
to use an edited version of the closing song, still omitting the familiar "Neighbours, should be there for another" lyrics which many consider to be an
integral part of the theme. But, it's fair to say that the current song has been very well received. It succeeds, largely because it's managed to adopt
so many characteristics of the original theme song, but being a brand new song in its own right, using many elements apparent in modern and popular music,
which appeals to a wide cross-section of the viewing audience. Interestingly, the current opening titles' sequence was produced to specifically work in
harmony with the current opening theme, in that the shots used change depending on the beat and point in the music, and not depending on their content
- i.e. Nina's foot and the Ramsay Street sign get twice the air-time in the sequence that characters such as Lou and Karl do.
So what's next for this, the most famous of television theme songs? The music has at several times been voted the most recognized television theme of all
time by many an internet poll, which only further justifies its undoubted popularity. These days, its lyrics are regarded with affection, as opposed to
being considered realistic or contemporary. Though, it's quite comical to note that a leading MP used the Neighbours lyrics as the basis for a talk he
gave in Parliament regarding anti-social behaviour, some years ago. It's also well known that hospitals have used the Neighbours theme on many occasions
to soothe babies in the womb, and further used it post-birth as a reminder to the little one of a time when it was safe and secure! It's doubtful the theme
song would have retained its nostalgic and almost retro qualities had the lyrics or melody been altered significantly at any point in its history. In 1996,
rumours circulated that the theme song had been revised to accommodate a new Neighbours catchphrase - "I Love My Neighbours" - supposedly part of the bid
to revamp the show in 1995-1996. Thankfully, the change never occurred, and two versions later, the theme song still retains lyrics originally written
by Jackie Trent, and there's no doubting the melody is still "Neighbours"! As Chris Pettifer himself explains, there's very little alteration one can make
to the melody without the song being significantly different. As it stands, it's fair to say that two versions of it have now been used. 'Melody one' can
be applied to versions one and two of the theme; while versions three, four and five have used a near identical melody, which we'll call 'melody two'.
Perhaps, in a few years' time, 'melody three' may be created, if it's at all possible to squeeze another one out of the Neighbours tune! Or, we may see
a return to the original melody for a new rendition of the original song. One thing remains certain, however. Neighbours' theme tune could never be anything
but the familiar Neighbours song we've grown to love since 1985. And, fortunately, it seems Chris Pettifer and the powers that be have the same opinion,
too!

## Post 158 by Luce (Zone BBS Addict) on Friday, 25-Nov-2005 12:09:11

Oh dear God! Seems I have opened a whole can of worms! Sorry for the delay in getting back to people, but yes, the Answer is Tony Hatch and Jackie Trent! So I'll leave it to Puggle to provide us with the next question! :)