# discussion for those that have read HP7

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## Post 1 by SingerOfSongs (Heresy and apostasy is how progress is made.) on Saturday, 21-Jul-2007 4:21:53

Hey people. this topic is for those that have read the last book. In other words, anything after this post for those that have not read it, will likely contain spoilers. Just so no one can say that they didn't have enough warning.

## Post 2 by SingerOfSongs (Heresy and apostasy is how progress is made.) on Saturday, 21-Jul-2007 4:33:55

Ok, now that the required spoiler warning is out of the way, what did everyone think of it? For myself I liked it more than book 6, though it isn't my favorite book. I'm rather happy about being right about Snape for the record. :) I was a bit disappointed about the epologue though. It seemed... weak to me I guess. For an epologue I would've expected more. I did rather like the scene with Dumbledor towards the end. What does everyone else think?

## Post 3 by ItsAConspiraZ (This site is so "educational") on Saturday, 21-Jul-2007 14:14:19

- Seeing Harry and his friends leave school was a really nice change.
- Dumbledore's meeting with Snape (after which Dumbledore trusted snape) was tacky, and I find it hard to believe he would want to save Harry just because he's his mother's son.
- Nevertheless I really really like this book because we finally see the students as adults; Longbottom's transformation was particularly gratifying.
- I have to read it again; I received it early last night and practically gulped it down in a few hours (no Jim Dale either, unfortunately).

## Post 4 by ItsAConspiraZ (This site is so "educational") on Saturday, 21-Jul-2007 14:22:15

I sure wish post editing was a feature:
- I agree, the epologue was pretty lame. I guess she thought it would make her fan's smile, though I think the mega-happy ending was enough.
- I was happy to find out that Dumbledore was not Ultra Jesus afterall.
- usually I'm turned off by corny happy endings, but not this one; I don't think the series could've been ended both more satisfyingly and perfectly.

## Post 5 by Daenerys Targaryen (Enjoying Life) on Saturday, 21-Jul-2007 15:56:23

Its a good book. I was right about Snape too. I liked the ending. I wish certain characters hadn't died though.

## Post 6 by i love tequila (i just keep on drinkin shots of tequila) on Saturday, 21-Jul-2007 18:34:12

i didn't get the part on why he saved hary

## Post 7 by kjv1611 (Give it to God) on Saturday, 21-Jul-2007 22:08:52

we need more potter more potter

## Post 8 by BrailleNote Nut (the Zone BBS remains forever my home page) on Saturday, 21-Jul-2007 22:28:17

Hi. I loooooved it, I got it from bookshare and golped it down in a few hours like someone said. Also, I cant believe Voldemort was killed! That was a cool part, but from the other books the connection between him and the the dark lord creeped me out. I liked the ending though. And of course, what happens at the reeeeeally end when they all go to hogwarts, Ginny, Harry, and their kids. Well Ginny and Harry didnt go, lol, but it was a really cool book. I will be away tomorrow through 2 weeeks so, I wont have time to reread parts of it which I was utterly confused, but I got it somewhat in the end, and how vaguely get the connections. But wow, harry was a horcrux, in a way; part of the dark lord's soul was in harry, so he destroyed his own horrcrux! Wow! And he's dead, dead, gone, good bye dark lord, let harry live in peace with Ginny! Yayyy! A happy and awesome ending that was!

## Post 9 by Nick6489 (11 years a Zoner) on Sunday, 22-Jul-2007 14:08:24

What no one seemed to mention was the politics in the book. It’s not the main point of the book, which actually would be great to read, but it’s definitely there. I liked seeing Rowlings try a dystopian slant, which everyone who read the book knew was coming (The Ministry has fallen indeed.) That in itself was a curve, seeing as most people thought that Voldimort would try that if he’d won...which...he didn’t. I think, whether liberal or conservative, whether you hold prejudices or not, take warning from this read for human kind. We don’t want to head down that road.

## Post 10 by ArtRock1224 (move over school!) on Sunday, 22-Jul-2007 17:42:59

It seemed a bit anti-climatic to me, almost as If it was finished to be finished, with no other real purpose. Nothing too thought-provoking or breath-takingly profound, but it still served its purpose and ended alright--If maybe a bit childish and unoriginal. the "epilogue" was something I'd expect to see in a standard, less-than-average, but still half decent fanfiction, and not something that Rowling would write--but that's what happens. Harry's final confrontation with Tom left me feeling a bit cheated, almost like something more substancial should have occured, but you get what you get. Most seem happy with it, and I'm sure Potter will continue for years online.
All in all, happy endings are okay, but I just wish there was something deeper ... something more lasting.

## Post 11 by changedheart421 (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 22-Jul-2007 18:23:28

I cried through the ending lol. This book was a marvelous one.

## Post 12 by DancingAfterDark (I just keep on posting!) on Sunday, 22-Jul-2007 18:49:53

I basically second post 10. It wasn't a bad book, and there were certainly loads of things I didn't expect and a few theories I had confirmed, but ... something about it left me feeling kind of dissatisfied. I love that Snape turned out the way he did, although that wasn't something that especially interested me in my pre-reading speculations. And I, personally, don't think it was all that far-fetched that he should do all he did for the love of Lily. The entire series has stressed love to the point of being annoying about it. I, too, am glad Dumbledore didn't turn out to be the completely perfect, ever so heroic type--a bit of humanity's always nice, even in heros.
The final scene with Harry and Tom disappointed me a bit, but what can you do? By that point I'd begun to wonder when it was finally going to end, which it did, so I guess I can't complain much. I thought it was all a bit drawn out, but I suppose it was necessary to explain everything and tie up all the loose ends and what-not. I'm just an impatient person. In any case, I agree that it was a bit anti-climactic, although I'm not really sure what else I was expecting. I didn't really think she'd kill Harry off in the end, although I did hope, but I'm satisfied with the bit of Voldemort's soul being put into him. I'm also pretty much satisfied with the deaths, and I didn't cry nearly as much as I expected I would. I cried way more in the fifth and sixth books than I did for this one. I did cry over Dobby, though, but let's not tell anyone that. Shh.
And finally, the epilogue. I'm not really even sure what to say about it. I wish she'd left it off and ended it with the end of the last chapter. If she had to keep Harry alive, she could've at least spared me the overly sappy, picture book perfect happily ever after ending of Harry and Ginny and Ron and Hermione. In other words, I hate the epilogue.
I'm sure I'll remember loads of other things and return, but for now, I think this is where I shut up. I've only just finished reading, and I think it's worth a re-read in a few days, so we shall see. Oh, and I'm not sure I entirely understand the bit about the elder wand that Harry told Tom in their final conversation. About how it was rightfully Malfoy's and then Harry's. And, Neville was absolutely fabulous. The end.

## Post 13 by i love tequila (i just keep on drinkin shots of tequila) on Monday, 23-Jul-2007 0:41:57

hmm

## Post 14 by Texas Shawn (The cute, cuddley, little furr ball) on Monday, 23-Jul-2007 1:58:36

nice book. Long and there were parts I dozed off in but still fine!
I had a few supprises, so I am happy about that.

## Post 15 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Monday, 23-Jul-2007 4:01:57

Someone had told me that they thought Harry was a Horcrux. I was surprised to learn that they were right, but it made sense when all was explained. loved the book, very well-written

## Post 16 by Resonant (Find me alive.) on Monday, 23-Jul-2007 6:08:22

OK, just some initial, not-well-thought out impressions, since I just finished it... It was a good ride.
That Epilogue should have been banned! Come on! Do we need to know what the kids are called? Also, Scorpius Malfoy and Hugo Weasley are the ugliest names in the history of the universe. Bar none.
Dobby made me cry too. The clothes, in the grave! Oh! Ow ow!
The final duel really was disappointing, but I thought the last few action scenes before it were really impressive and intense, so it's forgiven. There were a lot of echoes of the Narnia books there, I think, Aslan at the stone table, and the big messy multiracial battle, and that is a very good thing.
Neville is the coolest cool that ever did cool! Man! That is one deserving war hero, right there.
Hedwig. That was surprisingly sad.
Ron stabbed the evil spectre of Harry/Hermione! Oh man! Some shippers are gonna be pissed!
Snape. I guess it all had to be in there, and we're used to clunky exposition dumps in these books, but seriously? His patronus was her doe? How Emo!
McGonagall rocks my socks.
Sirius, I still adore Sirius, even though the book was oddly bitchy about him. I love his bike, and his rebellious interior decorating, and that he really was good friends with Lilly and not just tolerated by her.
There needed to be a few less expository dumps of back story, I think. Between the varied accounts of Dumbledore's past, and Grindelwold's, and Snape's, and the Ravenclaw ghost, and the three brothers' tale, and Regulus Black, all enriching and important, but a good editor could have cut it back, I think.
Love the slightly messed-up, very genuine Weasley family dynamic, she is so good at that sort of thing. And one-eared George facing life without his twin? *sniff*
Reformed Creecher! Lol and lol some more!
Peter's death was really creepy. I'd been hoping for him and Remus to have a final show-down, vengeance and the last of the marauders and all that, but it was disturbing and powerful as it was.
I cried out loud at Remus's death, because I love him, and seriously! Talk about a rough time! And just to top it off? The promise of hope and happiness and security at last, and pow! Off-screen death and an orphaned kid. Way to go.
But then, the marauders and Lily, accompanying Harry to his death. Oh. So perfect. That whole thing, from Harry's realisation up to the curse, so heartbreakingly good, and the perfect way to say goodbye to their generation. I love them so.
Wow. That was a whole heap of incoherence. I might come back and make some complete sentences later.

## Post 17 by Colombian Coke (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 25-Jul-2007 17:49:24

I just finnished the hp 7 book. I loved it all. I think she's an amazing writer and am going to read every book she writes. I'm actually curious as to what she's going to write about next. This book answered all my questions and I loved the fact that it had a nice epilog.

## Post 18 by Damia (I'm oppinionated deal with it.) on Wednesday, 25-Jul-2007 20:24:02

I finished it saturday, but thought I'd wait.
Come on he was a horcrux the thing needs to be distroyed none of this pansey danzey shit saving harry's life. Atleast make him loose both legs or something so the thick headed brat could use his cock as a pogo stick the rest of his life.
Snape I love you still.
Dumbledoor I knew you had a bit of slimey past, and yay for it being brought out. Mr. Perfect.
I'm sorry about the twins. They were just too good, and just no at loosing fred. Take pursey right after him coming back to the family is my thought.
Loopin I cried for and Tawnks just noooo. Why do the orphan thing again? Eppalog... Leave it out...
The rest though really good. I still clame book five was the best.

## Post 19 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Wednesday, 25-Jul-2007 21:41:42

I'm a bit annoyed that Dobby had to die.

## Post 20 by frequency (the music man) on Wednesday, 25-Jul-2007 21:57:07

it was good. at least harry and ginny ended up together. I wish she didn't write the epilogue. Ahh well. I'm sure plenty of fanfic writers will fill in the 19 years...

## Post 21 by Damia (I'm oppinionated deal with it.) on Wednesday, 25-Jul-2007 22:02:14

true enough blake

## Post 22 by Texas Shawn (The cute, cuddley, little furr ball) on Wednesday, 25-Jul-2007 22:50:23

I didn't really get why Snape when he was talking to dumble door and he was talking about being used. why he cast his paTronis. sorry I butchered the spelling of that.
I mean they were talking and he casts a spell, and then he goes on. why do that except to let us know what form his takes.

## Post 23 by tunedtochords (Zone BBS is my Life) on Wednesday, 25-Jul-2007 22:53:16

because the silver doe represents Lily ('cause james was a stag, so lily'd be a doe, you see). he was showing that his patronus still revealed the fact that he loved Lily, even though she'd been dead all those years.

## Post 24 by Colombian Coke (Veteran Zoner) on Thursday, 26-Jul-2007 20:56:36

I just can't believe that Dumbledore actually asked Snape to kill him!

## Post 25 by HauntedReverie (doing the bad mango) on Saturday, 28-Jul-2007 8:17:44

I was quite dissatisfied with the book. Everyone seems to love it, but although it was interesting, I wasn't enthralled with it.
My favorite bits were at the Weezley's, and at Grimmald place and a few others, but the plot seemed patchy to me. They just flitted place to place and though I don't see how it could have been written any differently, it still left me feeling unhappy. But I love potter watch. lol.
and I nearly cried over dobby, and I cried when Hagrid was carrying the seemingly dead harry up to the school, and Nevil is like, war God or something, rar.
Now about this God awful eppilogue, I agree. Come on, Albus Severous? happily ever after? *yawns. The naming was something Harry would do yes, but I'm sorry, I wished there would have been more sadness in the book.
Harry shouldn't have come out of that smelling like a rose. And parts of the back story bored me too. It wasn't my favorite book by far. At the moment, I can't see myself rereading it.

## Post 26 by jen91_09 (777) on Saturday, 28-Jul-2007 11:01:13

I loved the book! I cried when lupin and tonks died. Although I agree that the orphan thing again was a little... well... did she have to do that? I liked the epilog! It was interesting to find out a bit of harry after voldimort.
Albus Severus Potter? Wow that sounds weird! lol I agree with the Creacher reform lol lol lolol! Why did Dobby have to die? Stupid Belatrix! sory if I spelled that wrong. I loved how Harry kind of snuck up on Voldimort and everybody was like "he's alive!" that was kinda cool haha.
O and Molly Killing beletricks! Yea yea yea!
Well I'm done for now.
Jenna

## Post 27 by bozmagic (The rottie's your best friend if you want him/her to be, lol.) on Saturday, 28-Jul-2007 12:25:38

I didn't think it was very nice of Jo to play the "orphan card" again and so close to Voldemort's downfall as well. Why couldn't she let Lupin and Tonks see tiny Teddy grow up? Why did she also have to kill off Fred Weasley in that huge explosion? That was more like something out of The Bill than a harry potter-type death. (The Bill is a strictly Brittish police soap opera BTW) and all that suspense while he was giving Voldemort a good talking-to, I thought " any minute, Voldemort is going to snap, any minute, Vodemort is going to become ruler of the magical world forever and Harry Potter will just be a sad memory or the twinkle he once was in JK Rowling's eyes nearly 18 years ago." but then it was all over. I forgot I had yet another stinking cold, and the wholestreet knew what'd happened. Yayayayayayay!
Though in my mind, a very small part of me knew she wouldn't kill Harry of, and that very tiny part of me was right. Thank god, eh? And, she's even left it sort of open for more books about maybe the adult Harry Potter and his three children, if she starts to miss all the fun, all the publicity.
Jen.

## Post 28 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Saturday, 28-Jul-2007 13:50:02

I wonder what curse Molly had used to kill Bellatrix. She doesn't seem to be the type of person who would use an Unforgivable Curse on someone. Although, it was her daughter whom bellatrix was going to wind up killing, and when it's your offspring, you'd do anything to protect them, even if it meant killing the person trying to harm them.

## Post 29 by HauntedReverie (doing the bad mango) on Saturday, 28-Jul-2007 14:07:38

"get away from my doughter bitch" that, was the best line in the book.
Now, I liked everyone dying. *runs for cover.
it made the book more real, not just some wishy washy pansy fairy tale, which it kind of was anyway.
but I still like it ok enough, I like it a little more now that I think about it more.

## Post 30 by moyzey (i'm posting? huh?) on Saturday, 28-Jul-2007 14:20:55

I certainly enjoyed the book more than I enjoyed both books 5 and 6, but like a lot of people have said above, it was just satisfying in that it finished the picture and explained the previously unexplained. There were a few parts that I thought were fantastic, like the night in the forest of Dean when Harry found the Sawd and Ron destroyed the locket and also the Part in Godrics Hollow, but I thought the Ministry of Magic chapter was stupid and pointless.
I thought the Snape murdering Dumbledor plan storyline was great. Although I suspected Snape was not really evil, I didn't expect Dumbledors murder to have been planned like it was.
The final battle between Harry and Tom was a little disappointing, but I guess it had to finish somehow.
Dobby's death was sooooo sad, and also Hagrid taking the seemingly dead Harry back to the castle was excruciating to read, but I was a little disappointed Rowling didn't leave a few death eaters to survive, just to keep it slightly open ended.
The epilogue was...bleh, a bit to cliche', but never mind.
Overall, I enjoyed it and will go back and read all 7 books again now things have been explained so I can have a different outlook on them all.

## Post 31 by EssenceOfFaith (The Creamy Apple) on Saturday, 28-Jul-2007 14:37:19

So, everyone has pretty much said what I thought.
- George without his twin! That to me was the saddest, followed by Remus and Tonks, and then Dobbie and Headwig. But it just fits the whole idea that so many good people have died so that the world can be saved.
- I love Rowling's use of creatures like Dobby and Headwig throughout the books. It shows a true sense of equality in her books.
- No one has said this, but I think the last eight chapters of Deathly Hallows were some of Rowling's best work. You guys all mentioned Neville and how adult he was, Molly Weezly, and Mc'gonigle, and even Percy. But no one mentioned the last eight chapters!
- I had to smile when Dumbledore and Harry had that talk at the end. Talks with Dumbledore have been a characteristic of all the Potter books. It was refreshing to see.
- Lastly, I absolutely loved the silver doe. It shows not only what type of person Lily was--loving and caring--but that Snape had a soft side.
- Ok, really lastly now, lol. I almost wish Snape and Lily would have gotten together. It would have been the story of classic childhood friends getting together. But he got caught up in his death eater crap, and that was the end of it.

## Post 32 by The Luggage (Zone BBS Addict) on Saturday, 28-Jul-2007 20:38:20

Personally, I loved this book. Yes there were a few parts that were a little wishy-washy, but on the other hand, there were some amazingly clever concepts and sub-plots threaded throughout the book that all is forgiven by me. The eppilog could have been written in a much better way I feel. If I had been the writer, I would have used a series of short articles and headlines from the daily profit or Quibbler with their date-lines to explain what became of the key characters. Something like: July the 22nd, 2012, Nevil Longbottom to take the post of Proffessur of Herbology at Hogwarts. December the 15th, 2013, Congratulations to Harry and Jinevra Potter, and to baby albus who was born at 6:30 PM yesterday. And so on.
I thought that the complexity of wand law was fantastic! Yet another example of how amazingly detailed the World of Harry Potter was, how much care and attention to detail was given.
I do think that the harry stories are over for good. Another Harry story, following on from book 7 or later in his adult life would spoil what's already gone before. However, I think it would be a crying shame if the world J. K. has built around him with it's spells, wand law, quiddich, education and political systems, heros and baddies, history and legends were to die with the last period on the last page of book 7, and I have written to J. K. to tell her as much. The world she created is so vast and detailed, that hundreds, maybe thousands of other stories are out there to be written and placed in her magical environment. Other children's stories, adult stories, all the books on the booklists of Hogwarts students; and I know she's already done a couple of those etc. There's so much more she can do with this world without even mentioning Harry ever again! I hope she does use the magical toolkit she created over 17 years to tell more amazing sagas and short stories for many years to come. The magical genre is for her! If she turns to who dunnits or Patricia Cornwell style thrillers, I'll be incredibly disappointed.

## Post 33 by SingerOfSongs (Heresy and apostasy is how progress is made.) on Sunday, 29-Jul-2007 16:42:15

Some have made comments about how she seemed to kill people for no reason. Yes it's sad, yes we certainly didn't want them to die, but that is how war is. People do die, and often times senselessly. War is not picky. If you're in it, someone will get killed, often times many someones.

## Post 34 by mysticrain (Art is born of the observation and investigation of nature.) on Sunday, 29-Jul-2007 18:58:07

I thought this book was good, though not the best. I absolutely loved it when molly called belletrix a bitch! lololol. I had tears in my eyes from laughing so hard, right in the middle of an intense battlefront. I did cry when dobby died and when harry was going to sacrifice himself, though I suspected that something similar would happen. One thing I didn't get was the point of the resurrection stone in that chapter. I mean I get that it was part of the deathly hallows, but why did harry have to realize he was going to die before he got it, and what purpose did it serve at that point. I actually did like the final showdown between harry and voldimort it tied together some loose ends as well as show how much harry has changed over the years. In book four, the showdown was very much about voldimort telling what he did and learned and so on, whereas, harry was relying a lot on his nerve and bravery. But during this final confrontation, harry is the one with knowledge voldimort doesn't, and has a plan of how it was going to work, I'm referring to the wands, and the fact that he was going to sacrifice himself for everyone else, so they gained protection. I must admit, that that hadn't even accurred to me until he mentioned it.
About the epilog, I neither loved it nor hated it. But I heard that she wrote a more in depth epilog and the trimmed it, so I'd love to see what that said.
Ok, enough of my rambling, for now at least. lol And sorry for the misspelling. grin
Jen

## Post 35 by mistressamber87 (That sarcastic smart ass opinionated bitch you wish you didn't have to hear from) on Sunday, 29-Jul-2007 19:47:09

Everyone's already said their bit about it, so I won't elaborate on all of the same points that have already been made, but what I will say, is that I think that it was a good book, and she must have had to put a lot of thought into writing it. I do hope she does write something else, it will be good whatever she writes. But I do agree that she shouldn't turn to another jonra. She does just fine with what she's doing now. Hope my post doesn't seem lame after everyone else's. I just don't want to repeat everyone else, and I don't have a lot to say. it's the end of the series, I'm sad that it's over, and I'm sad that Dobby died, and I laughed at a reformed Creature, and I am glad that Harry beat Voldemort, I was right about Snape, though I didn't know how anyone would ever accept that it was the truth, (which is why I think she killed him), I thought it was a bit far fetched that he would have endured all that for so long just because he loved Lilly, but then again, I've been willing to do some crazy things for the girls I've loved. So who knows. all in all, it was a good book. I feel an odd sort of emptiness now that it's gone and over with, but I suppose that comes with the end to any dearly loved series. That's it from me, I'm out for now.

## Post 36 by Chifu (Generic Zoner) on Wednesday, 01-Aug-2007 23:47:10

"Not my daughter, you bitch!" Best! Line! Ever!

## Post 37 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Thursday, 02-Aug-2007 0:06:32

lol, yes, loved that one

## Post 38 by HauntedReverie (doing the bad mango) on Thursday, 02-Aug-2007 8:39:19

Personally, I think she could have taken out the hallows, and made a hell of a better book by focusing more on the horcruxes. Now yes, that's what we expected, the hallows gave a nice twist.
But I felt that the horcruxes were too easily found. I mean come on, they've been hidden for more than twenty years and yet Harry finds them all in like, 36 chapters? Parts of the book sucked, but Luna's house was a good scene.
And I hope Rowling writes the school textbooks, like Hogwarts a history and Secrets of the Darkest art, rather than some "after hogwarts" book.

## Post 39 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Thursday, 02-Aug-2007 10:31:08

I know she actually wrote a couple of books called Quidditch Through the Ages, and FAntastic Beasts and Where to Find them for charity several years ago. I think they're still available at your local bookstore, in pring, anyway. not sure where to find them in braille.

## Post 40 by Colombian Coke (Veteran Zoner) on Thursday, 02-Aug-2007 23:04:04

Yeah, I've read both quidditch through the ages and fantastic beasts and where to find them, both really interesting! And, noone really mentioned the part where Bathelda Bagshot's body was actually the snake, wow crippy! and yeah, you can find those two books on web braille.

## Post 41 by HauntedReverie (doing the bad mango) on Friday, 03-Aug-2007 0:08:19

oo, hey, did anyone catch in the book where,
at the beginning, Hermione was talking about how she modified her parents' memories so they could hide from the death eaters? Well in the cafe, just after the dream team disapperated from the wedding, Ron or Harry wanted her to do a memory charm on the death eaters, so they wouldn't remember they'd been there.
But Hermione says, "but I've never done a memory charm."
what's up with that?

## Post 42 by mysticrain (Art is born of the observation and investigation of nature.) on Friday, 03-Aug-2007 0:57:33

I'd love to see griphook's reaction when the sword disappeared to end up with nevil. lol

## Post 43 by lauralou (Account disabled) on Friday, 03-Aug-2007 2:38:44

i liked the romance in the book, i had to reread the part when ron and hermione were making out... lol and when hagrid was carrying harry's apparently lifeless body to the castle, that was really sad, what confused me is the talk that harry and voldamort had about the wand being malfoy's and then his... and yeah, the talk he had with dumble i found to be really boring, but i guess it fit in, i'm still wondering what obs they all ended up with, i hope she writes books about their kids at hogwarts, because there isnt much more to be said about harry, and who was victoya anyway? k, enough

## Post 44 by Winterfresh (This is who I am, an what I am about. If you don't like it, too damn bad!!!) on Friday, 03-Aug-2007 3:20:31

Ok. Molly killing Bella was fucking awesome. My fave part of the book. Also, the Gringots break in was massively cool, and so was the comment Ron made to Malfoy when they saved him the second time. I'm sad as hell that Dobby died. Wah. Same with Hedwig, Remus, Tonx, and Fred. Grayback scared the living shit out of me. I was really surprised when Harry called Remus a coward, and the really small and insignificant thing that cracked me up. Norbert was a girl? That was awesomely random. I WAS RIGHT ABOUT SNAPE! And the other theory that I was right about, surprisingly enough is Mandangus selling the horcrux.

## Post 45 by moyzey (i'm posting? huh?) on Friday, 03-Aug-2007 19:32:14

lol yeah, the norbert being a girl thing? How random and pointless was that? hahahaha!
The Godrics Hollow part, with Bagshots body being the snake was extremely creepy, and I also found the first time they went to 12 Grimold Place a little creepy with the whole anti snape jinxes.
Now I've had some time to think about the book, I actually think it is better than I first thought. Maybe it's because I took time over the other books and had time to speculate whereas I read Deathly Hallows in a matter of 3 days. I wasn't therefore able to take it all in.
I plan to read it again... starting... now...

## Post 46 by emerald (Generic Zoner) on Saturday, 04-Aug-2007 13:37:04

Well I'm not going to say that I even liked this book.
I really didn't think it was fair, that Harry won without learning a got damn thing!!! And that whole thing about the elder wand, was so wrong, because if the master of the wand is the person who takes the wand from its previous owner, why then did Harry remain the master after voldemort killed him the first time?
This book was so not werth the money. There's no explanation as to why Voldemort felt that he had to kill Harry. We don't even see why Voldemort chose the path he went down on.
I hated this book!!!!! Hell who gave a shit if Dumbldor wasn't as good as she wanted people to believe. What difference did it make to know that? Harry and Voldemort never struck me as stupid men, but she made both of them seem like little stupid assholes off on the biggest ego trip!! And what the fuck was she thinking with that epilog. That was so pointless. I felt that She should have left it up to the readers to decide what was going to happen next. The epilog seemed so fake and wrong.
I don't know what kind of bull shit she was playing, but this was a very fucked up way to end this series!!!

## Post 47 by moyzey (i'm posting? huh?) on Saturday, 04-Aug-2007 14:46:34

me thinks you might have got confused with the master of the wand thinggy, but I'm too lazy to explain it...

## Post 48 by HauntedReverie (doing the bad mango) on Saturday, 04-Aug-2007 14:47:14

at the end of book six, malfoy disarmed Dumbeldore, making him master of the wand, even though he didn't possess it. In book seven, Harry disarmed Malfoy, making himself master, though he didn't possess it. Voldimort never took the wand from it's rightful current master.
I hated the eppilogue too, I disliked much of this book, but some parts were good.
I do think though, that Harry and Voldimort didn't seem very powerful, they just danced around talking, and Harry goes, "die bitch" and Harry wins.
Like I said before, Harry should have been badly crippled, Rowling should have taken out the hallows in favor of a more interesting plot, and the eppilogue needs to be deleted. I do wonder what career harry went into though.

## Post 49 by tunedtochords (Zone BBS is my Life) on Saturday, 04-Aug-2007 16:41:54

JKR answered a lot of questions through her chats with the leaky cauldron and mugglenet, two of the largest Harry Potter fan sites. She used these chats to further tie up loose ends, which, in my opinion, is a bit of a cop out, but whatever. For example, we learn that Harry became an Aurror, Ron went into business with George, Hermione started out in the department for the regulation and control of magical creatures, and Ginny played professional quidditch, of all things. if you're interested, transcripts of the chats can be found on the aforementioned websites.

## Post 50 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Saturday, 04-Aug-2007 16:43:44

Thanks, Amanda. might have a look at those

## Post 51 by fuzzy101 (The master of fuzz!!) on Sunday, 05-Aug-2007 2:45:12

Personally I liked the book.
he ending though intense could have been more drawn out with Harry winning at the end of course.
What made the book interesting for me was the fact I got constantly reminded of the zone with a lot of zoners have Harry potter usernames.
This was the first time I've read anything Harry potter wise since joining the zone so it took me a bit to get used to it.
But getting back to the main part I thought that it answered everything and was well written.
I was kept interested through out the whole book, though she has a tendancy to do that with all her Harry potter books.

## Post 52 by Colombian Coke (Veteran Zoner) on Sunday, 05-Aug-2007 15:36:36

all right, people! you'll need to stop bitching! The epilog was great and the whole book was beautyfully written and I think the fact that she made a shorter epilog is not that she was a cupout but that she might've had a deadline! I see how you can't please everybody! God!

## Post 53 by Resonant (Find me alive.) on Monday, 06-Aug-2007 4:16:28

Well, no, actually, I don't see that we do have to stop bitching. The books aren't perfect, JKR isn't perfect, and I think the fact that we're here arguing out the tiny details is a pretty good indication that we're all fans. Being crytical, and thoughtful, and pulling the thing apart is really a sincere flattery, and I think most authors would agree. Personally, the epilogue irritates me on a number of levels, and there's large chunks of the book that needed a much stricter and less indulgent editor. This wouldn't bother me if I didn't think parts of the book, and the series, were so wonderful. We've all read lousy books, and books that just didn't engage us. They're not the ones we come on line to debate out the details of, or queue outside bookshops for, and they're certainly not likely to make us ring up friends in different timezones to wail, "Reeeeeeeeeemus! Nooooooooooo!!"
So, that got rambly. Basically, I think the bitching is good because it means we're thinking, and engaged, and that's got to be the best a book can aim for doesn't it?

## Post 54 by moyzey (i'm posting? huh?) on Monday, 06-Aug-2007 8:34:41

I have to agree Erin. Well put

## Post 55 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Monday, 06-Aug-2007 10:14:27

Over all I think it´s a good book and J. K´s grasp of this world and the details she´s mapped out are pretty astaunding, then again if you make over a billion dollars deciding what Ron´s favorite tv show would be if he were an Asian teenager, well I would probably do it too.
But there were two inconsistencies that I noticed in the book. Firstly Emerald is, in fact, right. The first "dual" where Harry lays down his life, Voldimort´s wand, being the elder wand, should have rebounded the curse. Everything Harry said in the final scene also held true for the previous scene, i.e. he was the true master of the wand when he showed up weaponless and thus the wand either should have rebounded the death curse or passed to V as the rightful owner for having killed Harry. Of course some magic explanation could be found to clear this up I suppose but to me this is a problem.
Also in chapter 10 I think when they are back at the #12 Grim Old Place they use Voldimort´s name when it had been jinxed by the ministry but nothing happens. Both in the previous chapter we see it brought death eaters instantly and later on we saw it also breaks all protective spells so why does it not bring on death eaters in this particular instance. Again the order´s protective spells are may be the explanation but given what happened later they do not seem to matter.
Over all though, good stuff, although the very last sentence of the epilog is annoying. The epilog is just tht, epilog, it´s not really, strictly speaking, a part of the book so I think it´s ok, if indulgent, to include it, but you can just read the story pretending it´s not there. I find it kind of fun myself, even if it´s so happy go lucky. I don´t think this series would have felt satisfying if the main character was killed off. What is she to say 'and then he died, the end suckers!' it just wouldn´t feel right I think.
cheers
-B

## Post 56 by tunedtochords (Zone BBS is my Life) on Monday, 06-Aug-2007 10:22:00

Well, the thing about saying Voldemort in 12 Grimmauld Place... I think nothing happened because of the Fidelius charm. It's such a strong charm, and since none of the secret keepers were revealing the location of the house to anyone else, the kids remained protected. Good spotting, though.

## Post 57 by Colombian Coke (Veteran Zoner) on Monday, 06-Aug-2007 13:56:25

I don't know, but although I thought the whole wand law was fasinating for some reason I also found it really confusing, lots of things on that book were a tad confusing. I'd have to read it over and I'll do that when the time comes

## Post 58 by Texas Shawn (The cute, cuddley, little furr ball) on Monday, 06-Aug-2007 14:00:09

something I just noticed in a reread. they didn't distroy the cup horclux. or they haven't up to where I am now.

## Post 59 by moyzey (i'm posting? huh?) on Monday, 06-Aug-2007 15:25:22

they did. Ron and hermione stabbed it with a baselisk fang that they retrieved from the chamber of secrets. We don't actually see them do it, but they told Harry they had done it. Shame we didn't actually get to witness it.

## Post 60 by Texas Shawn (The cute, cuddley, little furr ball) on Monday, 06-Aug-2007 17:02:26

oh, yeah, right now I remember that. damn. hmmm. I think that was when ron said he faked parsel tongue. Ya right, that's a major fly by there.

## Post 61 by moyzey (i'm posting? huh?) on Monday, 06-Aug-2007 19:07:52

yep. There was quite a lot of that in this book, missing out large chunks of important stuff, like how the three of them came up with the plan to infiltrate the Ministry of Magic.

## Post 62 by HauntedReverie (doing the bad mango) on Monday, 06-Aug-2007 19:11:52

I think she slacked off a lot in this book, maybe it's just me.
but reading through it, thinking over it, I see so man ythings she could have elaberated on. I wanted to see that cup destroyed, I wanted more tention with the horcruxes, not back story about the hallows. And it was too random that the hallows just showed up in this last book. Too random that Harry never realized before that his cloak was special. I think she just had to find something to make things all fit, and she came up with the hallows.
and I still wanna know if her little fuck up was a fuck up, about hermione saying she'd never done a memory charm before, even though she says she modified her parents minds.
and I want to hug Creature.

## Post 63 by frequency (the music man) on Monday, 06-Aug-2007 20:04:37

Cala, I think this site explains what you want to know.

## Post 64 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Monday, 06-Aug-2007 21:16:04

She was talking about two different Charms. The one she had never done before was the Charm that wiped peoples' memories, whereas the one she placed on her parents, was the Confundus Charm.

## Post 65 by SingerOfSongs (Heresy and apostasy is how progress is made.) on Tuesday, 07-Aug-2007 17:57:29

To those that are saying that a lot felt left out, I've heard that the publishers put a limit on how long she could make it, and ven then she had to trim it to make it to the length that they wanted.

## Post 66 by Colombian Coke (Veteran Zoner) on Tuesday, 07-Aug-2007 23:36:40

see, that'd make sence, because even though it was a great book, some stuff was a bit questionable. I thought she might've had a big deadline or something.

## Post 67 by HauntedReverie (doing the bad mango) on Wednesday, 08-Aug-2007 9:29:00

Damn publishers to hell. they don't know what they're doing.

## Post 68 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Wednesday, 08-Aug-2007 12:44:36

lol

## Post 69 by chocolab (move over school!) on Tuesday, 14-Aug-2007 19:40:39

I couldn't read everything but here's my viewpoint. Harry's a child still. He suddenly knew how to block Voldemort? He didn't use anything other then a harmless disarming spell? He didn't even bother to shrink a trunk before he left? I will read what Joe writes again, however I wil burn the bralle copy of dh and never discuss it again. Hugo and Scorpius I agree were disgusting names. and es Molly bitch refference was classic. dobbie, dead sucked and Fred too. One plus though, when George's ear was cut off, they said it wouldn't be put back on because it was cut by dark magic. I'm sick and tired of hearing Oh harry has a regrown leg even though Lupi chewed on it likea nlabone. pathetic, Joe, pathetic. Live your life making your children happy but i'm sorry I ever bought the book.

## Post 70 by Harmony (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Friday, 21-Sep-2007 17:31:40

My sister had already told me how the book ended before I had borrowed the braille copy, because she already had her own print copy.

## Post 71 by purple penguin (Don't you hate it when someone answers their own questions? I do.) on Friday, 21-Sep-2007 22:34:13

I made sure nobody told me any details before I actually red it.

## Post 72 by the illusive man (my ISP would be out of business if it wasn't for this haven I live at) on Wednesday, 03-Oct-2007 17:15:27

I still can't believe that snape was good, and i'll still hate him for what he did befor we found out

## Post 73 by fuzzy101 (The master of fuzz!!) on Wednesday, 03-Oct-2007 18:46:43

I agree with that.

## Post 74 by the illusive man (my ISP would be out of business if it wasn't for this haven I live at) on Friday, 05-Oct-2007 22:44:20

i mean how can you not hate him?

## Post 75 by Texas Shawn (The cute, cuddley, little furr ball) on Saturday, 06-Oct-2007 0:01:58

ya, but that was such a darth vador ending. I mean you hate the guy and then you find out he is good! but I think the most stupid part of the book is where ron and hermoney at the end go off to destroy the cup and ron says he faked the snake speech to get in to that chamber. ya, that is just a bunch of shit there!

## Post 76 by DancingAfterDark (I just keep on posting!) on Saturday, 06-Oct-2007 0:12:31

Lol well, I loved Snape even when everyone thought he was evil. There were moments when he did and said things that made me kind of hate him, but overall, I thought he was great. I have a thing for the villain type characters most people can't stand, though--I also love Malfoy.
And I agree, the whole Ron speaking Parseltongue thing was retarded.

## Post 77 by the illusive man (my ISP would be out of business if it wasn't for this haven I live at) on Saturday, 06-Oct-2007 17:50:50

he couldn't speak parcell toung if his life depended on it!

## Post 78 by kl1964 (the Zone BBS remains forever my home page) on Saturday, 06-Oct-2007 18:36:05

Honestly, I'm still not completely convinced that he was good. I know people who really believed in him all along, and I never understood why, and nobody really explained it to me. It seems to me that there would almost seem to need to be a whole book explaining Snape and how he fit in.

## Post 79 by Voldemort (Account disabled) on Saturday, 06-Oct-2007 18:42:19

I liked the book. It wasn't too bad. I can't believe Harry Killed me. I was so certain I was going to kill him and all of Griffindor House. LOL.

## Post 80 by the illusive man (my ISP would be out of business if it wasn't for this haven I live at) on Sunday, 07-Oct-2007 19:13:24

I wish they would make a book explaining snape

## Post 81 by Voldemort (Account disabled) on Sunday, 07-Oct-2007 19:52:55

Yes, they should. And, they should make a book devoted to the history of magic. They somewhat explain it a little in each book, but I want a whole book.

## Post 82 by the illusive man (my ISP would be out of business if it wasn't for this haven I live at) on Monday, 08-Oct-2007 21:45:05

kind of like fantastic beasts and where to find them

## Post 83 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Tuesday, 09-Oct-2007 20:35:25

and Quidditch through the ages. That would be interesting if she wrote a book about Harry's parents and their days in school.

## Post 84 by the illusive man (my ISP would be out of business if it wasn't for this haven I live at) on Tuesday, 09-Oct-2007 21:27:26

yeah it would. And it would also be cool to find about voldemorts childhood

## Post 85 by Winterfresh (This is who I am, an what I am about. If you don't like it, too damn bad!!!) on Tuesday, 09-Oct-2007 23:51:34

U know what's funny? That she alluded to in the eppologue, I just wish she could ellaborate. That Rose Weasley would marry Scorpius Malfoy. That'd be fucking funny. She should write a serie about the children in Hogwarts.

## Post 86 by the illusive man (my ISP would be out of business if it wasn't for this haven I live at) on Wednesday, 10-Oct-2007 21:44:27

yeah that'd be funny

## Post 87 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Sunday, 14-Oct-2007 23:08:07

There's so much to continue to write about. any series about the next generation of weasleys, Potters and Malfoys, wouldn't be entitled Harry Potter. someone start a patition and send it to her to continue with the people in the Potter wworld. There's no way she's don with it, as far as I can see.

## Post 88 by peanut_butter_junkie (Veteran Zoner) on Tuesday, 23-Oct-2007 21:10:20

I read the 7th book in a matter of a few hours. It was enjoyable if not a tad disappointing. I am glad it turned out that Voldemort lost the battle. Interesting way it happened. I wish that she wouldn't stop with the 7th book. I want more more more. I am sad that there won't be any more. I wish that the book would have been different somehow. It was kind of slow-going. There was a lot with not much happening.

## Post 89 by The Elemental Dragon (queen of dragons) on Wednesday, 14-Nov-2007 16:04:55

I must say I had to skip a few parts, like chapter the Prince's tale. I just read the last few pages of that chapter. It was stuff we could of already figured out any whay. but besides that it was a farely good book and I am sad to see it go. The book had it's good points as well as the dissapointing ones. just remember the good points over the bad ones. I liked how the snake was that Batilda Bagshot person. that was rather cool and the fact that you had to get into the ministry via a toilet.

## Post 90 by bozmagic (The rottie's your best friend if you want him/her to be, lol.) on Thursday, 15-Nov-2007 5:42:36

I'd be glad to start that petition Joanne, if only I knew how. Lollol.

## Post 91 by Ginny Weasley (Veteran Zoner) on Monday, 26-Nov-2007 0:31:44

I don't understand why one of the twins had to lose an ear. What was the point of taking Hedwig out of the book?

## Post 92 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Saturday, 01-Dec-2007 19:47:08

If Hedwig were to travel with Harry, she could have been killed while out hunting. Or, if one of them said Voldemort's name, his Death eaters would have killed her anyway. And, as for one of the twins losing an ear, people get injured during war, right?

## Post 93 by Elenhiia (Feather'rr'rr'rr'rr'rr'rr'rr'rr'rr'rr for president!) on Friday, 07-Dec-2007 21:33:36

Hmm, of course Harry would have to die and come back to life. I expected something along those lines. And damn I forgot what happened to Neville, I am not thinking now because it is late. The ending, was good. I liked their final confrontation because it's out of th norm. Voldemort killed himself, how fitting. Anyway I shall shut up now.

## Post 94 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Friday, 07-Dec-2007 23:10:29

lol I believe Neville wound up becoming the Herbology Professor at Hogwarts.

## Post 95 by the illusive man (my ISP would be out of business if it wasn't for this haven I live at) on Sunday, 09-Dec-2007 12:15:27

lol that was rather funny

## Post 96 by mysticrain (Art is born of the observation and investigation of nature.) on Sunday, 09-Dec-2007 12:22:43

But totally believable. lol

## Post 97 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Sunday, 09-Dec-2007 16:43:30

I was expecting the final battle between voldemort and Harry to be much more dramatic than what it was. That will be very interesting to see how the whole thing will be filmed.

## Post 98 by singingsensation (I just keep on posting!) on Wednesday, 26-Dec-2007 23:43:18

I loved the book. I give it a 9 out of 10. I liked the epilogue but it was a bit lame. But I liked it anyways. And I loved the part where Harry killed Voldemort!!!!! Avada Kedavra, lol!!! Just kidding. And I liked how Harry, Ron, and Hermione all left school and they grew up.
Macy
PS: I got the book the same day it came out!!

## Post 99 by Siriusly Severus (The ESTJ 1w9 3w4 6w7 The Taskmaste) on Thursday, 31-Jan-2008 21:18:52

Yeah, I got it the same day too! I just couldn't wait! I love the book and the epilogue. It just left me with a bunch of unanswered questions about which I'll write fics about. Lol! Dmhg? Lol! I am glad the parings were hgrw and hpgw. Proves the fanon folks wrong.
Lol!
BTW My penname if you are on ff.net is stargazer777, so yeah find me if you wish.

## Post 100 by SingerOfSongs (Heresy and apostasy is how progress is made.) on Friday, 01-Feb-2008 9:43:56

Hmph. Some of us didn't like the pairings at the end, but that is what fanfic is for. :D

## Post 101 by Siriusly Severus (The ESTJ 1w9 3w4 6w7 The Taskmaste) on Friday, 01-Feb-2008 20:24:18

Lol! Yeah for fics, but eh, some parings wouldn't work out. I mean if malfoys are against Mudbloods and blood traitors, it'll be hard to find a date from Gryffindor. Yeah, so... at least that's my view. Rofl! I write canon so.