# You don't have to look good, but you sure as hell better,

Category: Dating and Relationships

## Post 1 by hi5 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Friday, 08-Jan-2010 22:41:16

Smell, sound, feel good? or work, see, be tall? I want to know how everyone feels. I'm tired of people thinking there are no shallow blind people out there. I have my own wants. Like I want my man tall, a little muscular, to have good hygene and smell good with a sexy voice, among udder things. How bout you? Let it all out! By the way I know it might not make much sense to add this since yall are gonna do what you want anyway, but please don't judge anyone's responses. I really would just like us to feel comfortable with posting here.

## Post 2 by hi5 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Friday, 08-Jan-2010 22:45:40

Did I mention that I want him to be amazing in the sack? Well I do. Its been far too long since I've had my world rocked and my boots knocked.

## Post 3 by YankeeFanForLife! (Picapiedra: king of the boards!) on Saturday, 09-Jan-2010 7:53:05

Lol?

## Post 4 by hi5 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Saturday, 09-Jan-2010 8:00:02

Lol!

## Post 5 by Brooke (I just keep on posting!) on Saturday, 09-Jan-2010 22:58:00

I've always been attracted to guys that are taller than me. And the guy has GOT to smell good!

## Post 6 by forereel (Just posting.) on Sunday, 10-Jan-2010 1:23:04

Best to get what you want then settle. *smile* Kemped is hichly important. The voice is a differ, but I got you! Lol

## Post 7 by Emerald-Hourglass (Account disabled) on Sunday, 10-Jan-2010 7:06:19

lol girl i love you.
Height, nice body, smells good, nice voice, and i take three of my best girl friends and have them rate the guy from 1 to 10 and then i can decide. cuz someone could have a great body but a hidious face.

## Post 8 by butterfly star (Generic Zoner) on Sunday, 09-May-2010 19:12:50

my guy is amazing in bed and smells good all the time and has a sexy texan accent

## Post 9 by Lithium (Generic Zoner) on Monday, 10-May-2010 6:56:59

Yes yes, must smell good that is a big atraction, nice body. I like the broad shoulders. Got to have some hair on the chest, arms and legs. Not lots of it. Just enough. Sexy deep voice, brittish accent would bump him higher on the scale but not a have to, I like for men to trim up a little bit down there. And the ass girls. I like it when a man can fill out some jeans. You can just walk right by and give it a pinch. lol, but if you get you a real skinny dude, ladies, their jeans just sag in the back. Not very pinchable. I'm with you chippie. lol, Yeah, it would be grate for him to last more than a minute and able to put it down in the bedroom. I haven't had any buckle at the knees sex in a long time. I'm talking about the lovin so good makes you fix him grits and eggs the next morning.! lol Thanks for a fun board. I've always said blind people have standards too as far as what's attractive and not.
Ashley

## Post 10 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Monday, 10-May-2010 10:04:23

He has to have a sense of humor, and can't be too uptight about class. You know, burping out loud, ETC. Other than that, I take him as he is.

## Post 11 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Wednesday, 12-May-2010 15:28:28

Good for you Ocean Dream! Take us or leave us, that's what I say.

## Post 12 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Wednesday, 12-May-2010 18:10:53

What I like about this thread is the proof that the feminists, who claimed all men objectified women and that women were somehow superior to this / always thought of the inner being, well proves them to have always been wrong and without any merit whatsoever for pointing the high and mighty finger at us / looking down the nose at us.
Take this objectification / whatever words they applied to us men only, show your college women professors this board and let the fireworks begin. Now granted, I cannot possibly blame any of you all for their claims / looking down their noses at men for "being all physical", or "being all visual", and you all have not made the claims they did about women being more attuned to the inner being ... you just prove to us what we all suspected anyway, that that is all hogwash. Idealism is best looked upon as it goes up in flames!
Enjoy.

## Post 13 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Thursday, 13-May-2010 10:58:33

No, money is the last thing on my mind. I think wanting the guy to have lots of money is incredibly shallow. I actually find a lot of common expectations of men very shallow. As long as you can get along, and you have enough in common to comfortably maintain a relationship, why should there be any other expectations? It amazes me how some people can make a long list of such things, and then complain and wonder why they don't find anybody to their liking.

## Post 14 by hi5 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Thursday, 13-May-2010 17:05:31

yep when it comes down to it, that's all that matters. I'm happy with the guy I'm with now and there are a few things on my list he doesn't have but I wouldn't trade him for one like that. Anyway enough mush. More icing on the cake! I absolutely love kissing and man oh man would that make me want him more.
P.S.
Yes Robozork, us girls are shallow and treat you guys like toys too; would should they have all the fun?
Chip

## Post 15 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Thursday, 13-May-2010 17:29:56

I agree with Jessica (OceanDream) completely; I think far too much emphasis is placed on having a long list of expectations, which ultimately leads to disappointment in the end.

## Post 16 by DevilishAnthony (Just go on and agree with me. You know you want to.) on Thursday, 13-May-2010 17:47:30

Ever heard the saying, "noone is perfect, until you fall in love with them?" No matter how many expectations you may have, at least once in most people's lifetime, a person will come along that totally doesn't fit the mold, but the attraction is unexplainably there. Just an interesting random thought. And yes, as far as preferences, I do have them. I guess I even have expectations, one of them being intelligence, as long as the person doesn't surpass me by too much. LOL.

## Post 17 by HotPerro (I live and breathe the board) on Thursday, 13-May-2010 19:30:40

I'm definitely a sucker for boobs... preferably medium sized with a good shape. Shorter than me, good length hair, a hint of vanity, and concerned with hygene. Lookswise, for example, my smaller, curvacious Latinas bring out the animal in me, lol. A subtly sweet ssmell, and a higher voice is always good too.

## Post 18 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Friday, 14-May-2010 11:26:29

Well, okay..hygene is important, but I would give the person a chance to clean up, literally.

## Post 19 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Sunday, 16-May-2010 14:01:31

I personally find such lists quite shallow. Of course both men and women are drawn to cleanliness but that's a given. I don't see women as blobs of clay that I can shape into what I want because...it just doesn't work that way.

## Post 20 by The Roman Battle Mask (Making great use of my Employer's time.) on Sunday, 16-May-2010 16:36:41

All I want is a girl who is a Linux Kernel commiter, understands both 32 and 64 bit memory management, can write network drivers in a weekend, and is hot to boot. Is that really to much to ask?

## Post 21 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Monday, 17-May-2010 9:29:15

It depends exactly what your looking for in a relationship. Do you want to find your soulmate? Or someone you can just hook up with? If the latter, make all the lists you want. If not, I suggest you expect only that the feelings are right, and that you can work around any differences you have.

## Post 22 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Monday, 17-May-2010 15:22:12

That's right. I never got the whole soul mate thing because I feel we each have many possible matches but making lists will actually lessin your chances I think.

## Post 23 by Sexy CC (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 19-May-2010 5:01:35

oh yah, the guys needs to be sensually apealing or he ain't getting none. I like men older then myself, not to skinny but not to big either. I like my men muscular and hairy in all the right places. Don't shave your chest, arms, or legs unless your profession requires it. love beards and mustashes. I don't like doods that let their hair grow out long enough to brade of put it up in a pony tale. Short hair of military cut hair is sexy. Those are just a few things I notice when I meet aman, if he's nice that's a plus.

## Post 24 by Sexy CC (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 19-May-2010 5:11:46

oh and sure were all going to have are preferences but love has no bounds. If you can find someone you can relate to on so many levels that's wonderful to.

## Post 25 by The Lil Dark Piggy (This site is so "educational") on Wednesday, 19-May-2010 13:03:40

hahaha jaird, that's funny.

## Post 26 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Wednesday, 19-May-2010 13:23:54

Am I the only one with low standards?

## Post 27 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Wednesday, 19-May-2010 14:34:05

no, you aren't the only one. I'm with you completely; I think low standards are the best way to go.

## Post 28 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Thursday, 20-May-2010 9:13:37

So do I. I'm sure a lot of people are also turned off or scared away by high standards. I know I would probably avoid a relationship with a person that said I had to be this, that, and the other. Love isn't supposed to be an exam.

## Post 29 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Thursday, 20-May-2010 12:37:32

I agree. I mean, I guess we all have standards but...

## Post 30 by Blondie McConfusion (Blah Blah Blah) on Thursday, 20-May-2010 22:55:47

teach me jared baby, and i'm all yours! hehehe

## Post 31 by Godzilla-On-Toast (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Friday, 21-May-2010 15:45:21

I think these big lists of high ideals and standards are good if you intend to spend your life dreaming. Somehow I wonder if a lot of single folks don't really know what they want and are going on what they think they're supposed to want to be seen as acceptable by their friends or some invisible audience. Tough to say. But there's a point where you have to give up on the fairy tales and dreams of people who are good-looking and rich and just find somebody you like being with and can enjoy being with them for a long period of time. Looks fade, financial things can change or money can just run out, etc, etc. If I had kept with my list of ideals, I would not have met the woman I'm engaged to right now, but she turned out to be ideal for me despite my list.

## Post 32 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Friday, 21-May-2010 23:40:11

something to think about.

## Post 33 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Monday, 24-May-2010 8:51:42

Definitely. Some very good points.

## Post 34 by starfly (99956) on Wednesday, 08-Sep-2010 13:00:19

Someone say buckling nees sex! *points at himself* :) Well seriously my butterfly star is more then enough for me. :) Oh as for can walk after sex for a minute or two, hmm.... I will leave that alone.

## Post 35 by butterfly star (Generic Zoner) on Saturday, 02-Oct-2010 20:35:04

yeah u better leave that alone not everyone needs to know that starfly and i tell starfily something eles but leave it alone

## Post 36 by starfly (99956) on Saturday, 02-Oct-2010 20:40:54

I am inisent butterfly star like Britny Speers! :)

## Post 37 by butterfly star (Generic Zoner) on Thursday, 28-Oct-2010 16:22:10

yeah sure what ever

## Post 38 by Thunderstorm (HotIndian!) on Thursday, 28-Oct-2010 22:21:32

I must have a proofreading first to have an impression upon that girl. lol.
As I said in many board topics, I prefer to have a sweet voice, honesty, medium build and chubby skinny baloons with her.
but Keep in mind "love is blind" and most the lovers are also here. hmmm?
Raaj

## Post 39 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Friday, 29-Oct-2010 14:09:00

one can't be so picky that they gloss over the person as a whole.

## Post 40 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Friday, 29-Oct-2010 14:53:06

Absolutely. You never know, the one who's meant for you might not look very good, and might not have the most attractive voice, but sometimes they have the most compatible personality you could imagine. Now, you wouldn't want to miss that opportunity because you're so focused on what that person doesn't have, would you?

## Post 41 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Friday, 29-Oct-2010 23:31:20

no you certainly would not.

## Post 42 by forereel (Just posting.) on Monday, 01-Nov-2010 2:05:38

Saddly people miss out offten over "money, looks, race, religion," I say give all a chance. After that first atraction wears off you have to deal with that person. Maybe he or she is beautiful, but they are ugly otherwise. When the day is done can you "trust them, do they please you, are they kind, are they good to you, can you live with them."

## Post 43 by ThaCake (Not the best, just better than you.) on Monday, 01-Nov-2010 4:15:31

i thought i would come through and show you guys how shallow blind people can really be. lol I have had sight before so. . . but i don't date fat guys or ugly guys. Now ugly is a loose term. If my friends describe him to me and the use the words average, not my type, ok, decent, or he isnt bad but i wouldnt date him, then it is ok. But if my friends describe him to me and they say he is disgusting or something then no. but like anthony said, noone is perfect until u fall in love with them. i can over look the looks department if the personality is amazing. but the fat thing, i dont budge. how can a man take care of my body if he cant take care of his own?

## Post 44 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Monday, 01-Nov-2010 8:26:58

But sometimes being overweight isn't the guy's fault. they might have a thyroid problem, they might have a slow metabolism. You really shouldn't judge that either.

## Post 45 by CrystalSapphire (Uzuri uongo ndani) on Monday, 01-Nov-2010 8:35:32

Each person is different. You have to get to know the person not the steriotype. :)

## Post 46 by ThaCake (Not the best, just better than you.) on Monday, 01-Nov-2010 9:14:25

they may have a thyroid problem, or a slow metabolism. but fact still remains, shallow as it may be, i won't date insanely overweight guys. thank u for the criticism and the telling me how not to be, but i am perfectly happy with where i stand on the issue.

## Post 47 by Thunderstorm (HotIndian!) on Monday, 01-Nov-2010 9:19:30

each their own. as how I'm fond of bubbly booblies?
and as how hate manly voices?
but still, love is blind.
Raaj.

## Post 48 by starfly (99956) on Monday, 01-Nov-2010 13:29:56

as fore KaylaCookie comments, I do see where she is comming from because at one time I would date a person solly on there personality veryly little looks. here is the question I want you all to think about please, its something I learned when mariing my wife. What happens when you are atracked to them just solly on personallity, then you meet them their okay? What if you just settle for what comes your way? Ponder that please because I yhave been in the boat so many times and my right person was not what I was settling fore. Hints now I am with someone who I find mental atractive, physically and now spiritually. So.. just think about my questions and post on.

## Post 49 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Monday, 01-Nov-2010 13:38:40

So long as women no longer try and say how they are the ones interested in the inner meaning and men are brutishly physical. So long as you just come out and admit it, don't try and rub our faces in it, and don't try and think you're better than us.

## Post 50 by ThaCake (Not the best, just better than you.) on Monday, 01-Nov-2010 13:56:49

lol leo that is what i intended to do. i think that is what i did. isn't it? lol :p

## Post 51 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Monday, 01-Nov-2010 13:58:36

Indeed you did. And forever afterwards, we have this entire board as an example to any and all feministas who claim themselves superior in this fashion. In the spirit of Zone topics searchable on Google and linkable to external sources, this can come in handy.

## Post 52 by forereel (Just posting.) on Monday, 01-Nov-2010 22:33:49

Well I am totally in to fitness and to agree that I enjoy a person that will care for their body, but a disability is a disability. People with true weight disability are different then lazy people. I have dated heavy women before, and found then nice to date, or to heavy is to heavy. As said here ugly is a loose term, and so difficult, but again at the end of the day I still stand on my thoughts. Trust, are they good to me, and so forth. Beauty is in the eye, or in our case mind of the beholder. Smile.Subjects like this for us are like double edged sords. We are not dated because we can not see, so if we had a title of a topic "You don't have to be sighted, but you sure as hell better." It cuts. Sighted people that have gone blind can relate to this better I'd think. They lose so many friends and other things, not because they have changed, but because they are now blind. But okay desire is an odd beast.

## Post 53 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Tuesday, 02-Nov-2010 8:08:03

People can look good, and be total slobs otherwise.
People can look fat, or ugly, and can be the most loyal people you'll ever meet.
People can be the sweetest angel, until you walk in their house and can't even see the floor for all the mess.
People are like onions; whole and simple on the outside, but ring upon ring on the inside.
For those who choose to have specific expectations, I wish you the best of luck finding a mate, if that's what you're looking for, anyway.

## Post 54 by Thunderstorm (HotIndian!) on Tuesday, 02-Nov-2010 10:46:08

oo wow. I've never heard this saying so far. and I like this part...
People are like onions; whole and simple on the outside, but ring upon ring on the inside.
I guess I'm falling under this one.
People can look fat, or ugly, and can be the most loyal people you'll ever meet.
5.7 and 198. lol. so now tell me, how many of you gona put me on ignore? hmmmm?
As I said earlier, each their own. I'm sure if you can feel the true love, your mind won't obey the orders of your eyes.
Raaj.

## Post 55 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Tuesday, 02-Nov-2010 14:39:58

And also as you said, love is blind. I guess that means we are love itself.

## Post 56 by CrystalSapphire (Uzuri uongo ndani) on Wednesday, 03-Nov-2010 13:27:45

Love can be blind. That's for sure.

## Post 57 by Godzilla-On-Toast (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Friday, 05-Nov-2010 9:16:41

Sometimes I wonder why people date at all if it's more about looks and money than anything remotely connected with love.

## Post 58 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Saturday, 06-Nov-2010 14:10:50

Yeah. I know, right? My thoughts exactly.

## Post 59 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Sunday, 07-Nov-2010 17:40:02

Good point.

## Post 60 by hi5 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Sunday, 14-Nov-2010 14:53:47

omg can't believe this is still here. I just made it for fun really. I say people have a choice. Give something different a chance, even if its not perfect and you'll be surprised as hell what's on the other side. I've always been but this time around, it was very, very, very good! No one here believe in lists? Well I made one years ago and let me tell you that my sweetheart has the majority of what was on it. About attraction well I could sit here and say what I think I find attractive tall/hot voice/muscular blablabla but I've discovered that its not that at all. I don't even know if its personality or what. Maybe its some kind of ying yang energy that causes it. Who knows. So everyone try going out with someone you might not have considered or noticed before. Hell they might set your ass on fire in the bedroom every day, multiple times a day like mine does. yum!

## Post 61 by OceanDream (An Ocean of Thoughts) on Sunday, 14-Nov-2010 17:32:56

Naturally, I think most people have their "ideal" partner, but some are willing to look beyond this ideal, while others aren't.

## Post 62 by CrystalSapphire (Uzuri uongo ndani) on Monday, 15-Nov-2010 8:51:45

lol I'm with someone now. I can say I'd never dreamed of us together, but now that we are I could not ask for better. :) He'll probably see this at some point soooooo. :P

## Post 63 by Lisa's Girl forever (Help me, I'm stuck to my chair!) on Wednesday, 09-Feb-2011 17:33:12

yep. smiles.

## Post 64 by starfly (99956) on Thursday, 10-Feb-2011 8:37:37

Shoot my wife and I are almost total opisits atract situation, heck first off when I was looking fore someone to bee with fore good, I was not looking fore someone of my race. Why this was I guess a lost of what I saw from my race as far as discrimination turned me off. Second my wife is pateet, when I was in highschool I wanted to date people her sise but as I got older I just gave up and settled fore other quolities. Now I have all of what I was looking fore :), okay, she is a bit spunky at times but that is sexy to me!. To sum all this up, you never know what will come your way if you just keep your mind's eye closed, or fore people who believe in God, you never know what God has instore fore you as far as a special someone. 'Fore me I had to get my player side out, grow up, and then face some issues before that someone came my way. :) kisses butterfly star!.

## Post 65 by squidwardqtentacles (I just keep on posting!) on Thursday, 10-Feb-2011 19:43:53

I think all human beings, blind or sighted, male or female, are physical as far as what does or doesn't attract us to one another. Would any of you feel attracted to a member of the opposite (or same) sex who was enough like you to be a possible blood relation? That, IMO, is part of what does or doesn't do it physically...a desire to avoid inbreeding. Look at the results of staying very close to one's own ethnic group, or God forbid, consanguinous marriages...everything from sickle cell disorder to BRCA1 & BRCA2 (genetic mutations known in breast & ovarian cancer sufferers in Ashkenazi Jewish & Pakistani populations. A good percent of the latter group are products of first cousin marriages). There is a fatal genetic defect called Tay Sachs disease that concentrates in Ashkenazi & French Canadian populations. Mixing as well as mingling is not only a social but a survival strategy.
I have known my share of the black women who complained about men liking light complected/mixed race/other than black women, but this is probably survival strategy for them as well, a desire to weed out sickle cell trait. Same with east Indian folks, as men seem to like light complected women in these societies, although they are not carriers of anything I know.
I think it would be pretty fake to say I wasn't looking at the physical at all, not just my opposite physically, but when one is younger than I certain physical characteristics go against fertility, like a thick waisted body type in males or females. Same with certain behaviors, which not only smell foul, but again go against fertility. Same with do they drink moderately, or excessively, or practice good hygiene...who among us would admit to not caring about that?