# Fs has been sold

Category: accessible Devices

## Post 1 by b3n (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Tuesday, 15-May-2007 19:21:55

For those of you that do not kno, in there monthly podcast, there ceo anounced that they had been bought out by some group of investers.
Thoughts?
BEN.

## Post 2 by worthless shitface (Account disabled) on Tuesday, 15-May-2007 20:15:08

i don't use anything from fs, however if this is true, it wouldnt make me more excited, from what i have heard fs was um..crap to put it nicely, the 3 companie3s stuff they took over is going to hell and they raise the price for things about a few k
so..yeah i'd hope they gotten taken over by people who want quality control

## Post 3 by Izzito (This site is so "educational") on Tuesday, 15-May-2007 22:10:17

good now maby they'll stop sucking balls

## Post 4 by worthless shitface (Account disabled) on Tuesday, 15-May-2007 22:12:36

hehheh

## Post 5 by Salem (Veteran Zoner) on Tuesday, 15-May-2007 23:49:09

I'm not as thrilled. Especially if they feel the need to putsource their tech support.

## Post 6 by BrailleNote Nut (the Zone BBS remains forever my home page) on Wednesday, 18-Jul-2007 23:29:41

good! Let 'em go down, down till they die! Jaws keeps crashing my comp, I used t have a millennium braille lite, awful pac mate stories... yeah I am happy. Seems there still in business as pac mate omni is releasing soon. Darn, cmmon fs, go down!

## Post 7 by blbobby (Ooo you're gona like this!) on Thursday, 19-Jul-2007 8:32:03

The scuttlebutt I've heard is that the company that bought fs is an investment company, so I don't look for anything exciting to come out of it. Maybe prices will go up, but, what's new.
Bob

## Post 8 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Thursday, 19-Jul-2007 9:39:36

May be I'm weird but Jaws and XP has been a totally winning combination for me and its Excel support is unparalelled, visual studio is the best support out of the screen readers and IE and FireFox are tolerable. I don't see what all the complaints are about honestly, their Focus displays are not bad either.

## Post 9 by Big Pawed Bear (letting his paws be his guide.) on Thursday, 19-Jul-2007 17:59:36

I've had some shit from jaws eight, and maybe fs is getting a load of crap because of the shit their recent jaws has caused. they release new versions too quickly with not enough testing in my viewe. this can often piss a customer base off.

## Post 10 by WillieTheWoof (I'll have the last word, thank you!) on Thursday, 19-Jul-2007 18:26:08

Gotta say that Jaws 8 is really not making me to happy either. In vista it's support of ms word office 7 needs work. reading line by line is not always accurate. Working in xp under internet explorer 7 is tolerable but every now and then there is extranious reading and when doing a find it doesn't always land where it should. 8 is going to really cause them some trouble. Will say that the automatic update feature is excellent and I would like to se that implimented in window-eyes. They have a check for upgrades but that takes you to the webpage where you have to download when jaws does that automaticly and installs for you. Hopefully they will get this one together. It's probably the vista support that through them.

## Post 11 by BrailleNote Nut (the Zone BBS remains forever my home page) on Thursday, 19-Jul-2007 23:10:59

Ya know what? My jaws7 keeps deactivating every time I boot into windows! Jaws8 is a discrasful mess; all I got out of it is a bunch of crap! I find that when I read line by line, and jaws is on, or the comp is on with jaws loaded or unloaded, when I boot it's fine; it happens after awhihle, so I gotta reload jaws. 5 mins later, it refuses to read lines again and xp just dings at me, as if... I might just stop my supportive jesture to fs by actually using jfw for years on end, I find that window eyes demo is good. So I find I will just give up on jfw and buy wineyes. Pac Mates, horrendous pieces of trash! Braille lites, braille n speaks, adn the other horrendous line of crap they sell? Outdated and breakable. I find that fs gives up on their stuff! I think fs is getting worse and worse as time progresses. Cmmon peoples! We should give up on fs completely; no testers, jaws... oh my,, fs, bring in your testers! pay 'em, do somethin; cuz jaws has a slew of crap! Oh yeah, and how is jfw with vista, shall I switch to winddoweyes for good? Or just burn up my jaws disks, and then erase jfw as soon as wineyes is safe and sound? What do you guys think?

## Post 12 by Big Pawed Bear (letting his paws be his guide.) on Friday, 20-Jul-2007 2:31:28

i find the automatic update never works, it's a heap of shit. I have bought system access now as I find jaws thoroughly shit, but even then system acces crashes and I need to use jaws to troubleshoot! i think back to basics needs to be a watchword here.

## Post 13 by The Roman Battle Mask (Making great use of my Employer's time.) on Friday, 20-Jul-2007 7:49:55

I love jaws 8 and have had no problems with it. Possibly it's user error? Also quit buying bottom of the barel computers, jaws works better if you have any kind of half way decent video card instead of integrated video.

## Post 14 by BrailleNote Nut (the Zone BBS remains forever my home page) on Friday, 20-Jul-2007 19:10:53

dont care whatjaws needs, not trying to be rude; thanks for telling us all but I am switching to wineyes soon. Wooooohooooo!

## Post 15 by Big Pawed Bear (letting his paws be his guide.) on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2007 8:07:00

system access works fine now, updates n'all, and is jaws nine shite or what? doesn't work with word 2003 at all, they've done it again, busted themselves. back to jaws eight, and I'm still not using the jaws update feature.

## Post 16 by Diane (Missing a Friend!) on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2007 8:20:45

I have no problems with Jaws 8. Haven't tried 9 yet.

## Post 17 by soaring eagle (flying high again!) on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2007 8:54:32

I think the one thing that bugs me the most is no payment plan for those that can't drop 1200 dollars on a product. win-eyes has a pay plan plus they for a fee send you a trial version with out having to reload every 40 minutes. jfw 8 stops reading in combo boxes and I have a very good computer. just my thoughts.

## Post 18 by Big Pawed Bear (letting his paws be his guide.) on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2007 11:59:52

fss have it all wrong where payments are concerned. it wouldn't kill them to aloow for a payment plan.

## Post 19 by singingsensation (I just keep on posting!) on Friday, 01-Aug-2008 13:04:47

I totally agree. On our desktop computer, I go into combo boxes and I try to read the content in them but it doesn't work! I have JAWS on my laptop, but I also have WindowEye 6.1 demo on there as well. So I'm not sure what to do. I really like both of these products, but not sure which one to use more...
Thanks!
Macy
PS: I've been using JAWS for years and I am starting to get used to WindowEyes.

## Post 20 by jessmonsilva (Taking over the boards, one topic at a time.) on Friday, 01-Aug-2008 14:07:36

I dont' see the problem, jaws 8 and jaws 9 both work on my computer, and I have had this sucker for like 4 years.
I think I agree with jared on this one, user error completely.

## Post 21 by GreenTurtle (Music is life. Love. Vitality.) on Friday, 01-Aug-2008 15:49:22

Jaws 8 works fine for me. I tried Jaws 9 and hated it. I agree that they release too many versions without bothering to test them first, and then they end up unstable. The only real issue I have with Jaws 8 isthat it doesn't work very well with combo boxes, but I can work around that. But Jaws 9 taking 2 minutes to load, when Jaws 8 takes 10 seconds, if that, I won't tolerate that. I'm sticking with 8, because it hasn't really given me any problems, but that just goes to show you that it is true that FS's products are really going down the crapper.

## Post 22 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Saturday, 02-Aug-2008 1:06:52

I'm using jaws 9, not a problem, running XP, on a really old computer too. Works great for me.

## Post 23 by kelly (Zone BBS Addict) on Saturday, 02-Aug-2008 16:14:27

I think if some of you people get a job and stop depending on dsb to do eberything for you, you can aford to keep up the sma after someone from dsb ever so nicely got you the first version. remember nothing in life is free or going to be handed to you on a silber platter I think most of you forget that.

## Post 24 by bozmagic (The rottie's your best friend if you want him/her to be, lol.) on Saturday, 02-Aug-2008 18:10:12

Hmmm! As for me, I use a Toshiba A100 notebook on which I've tried both JAWS 8 standard and JAWS 9 Professional. I have no complaints. The notebook's Windows Vista and is working just fine, better with JAWS 9 than JAWS 8. OK, it has a nasty habit of quitting or going to sleep on me sometimes, but in the event of this happening, I just reboot or restart JAWS via the desktop. No problem.
Jen.

## Post 25 by GreenTurtle (Music is life. Love. Vitality.) on Saturday, 02-Aug-2008 20:03:19

Yeah, Jaws 9 would work better with Vista, I'm not sure Jaws 8 can run on it, but I wouldn't use Vista anyway, no matter what it was running, but maybe that's just me.

## Post 26 by The Elemental Dragon (queen of dragons) on Monday, 04-Aug-2008 13:46:21

I've had no problem with jaws 8 on my xp machine, so I don't really see what the problem is.

## Post 27 by chikorita (move over school!) on Saturday, 09-Aug-2008 20:11:40

Yeah I know about jaws 9 takin 2 minutes to load, seriously! It froze my skype call while loading too! gu'rhrhrhrhr'r'rr'hrhrhrhrhrbpbppbpbppbbpbplblbblpblpblpblpblpblpblpblblpr''rhrhr! That's best read with scansoft dan, btw.

## Post 28 by louiano (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Monday, 11-Aug-2008 16:32:52

erhm, anyway--if they have been sold... I am no longer buying anything from them. I never did anyway... maybe universities and schools, but not me. I really dislike it too when they go to do the technology demos at a place and guess what, everything works like a charm! and when you are back to your place, the technology demos are like a dream... I guess some day it will happen to them, just like how microsoft tried to show off their speech recognition (better known as speech "train rack") and obviously everything they threw at it never came out the way people would have liked.

## Post 29 by lights_rage (I just keep on posting!) on Monday, 11-Aug-2008 18:38:36

Jawsnine works for me.

## Post 30 by RadioBoy (Newborn Zoner) on Tuesday, 12-Aug-2008 22:30:21

I'm running jaws 8 with vista and don't have any issues

## Post 31 by Phasia (Generic Zoner) on Wednesday, 13-Aug-2008 19:44:02

I agree with kodiak bear
about all the issues with JAWS. I have the combobox thing going as well, but there's also this problem on my laptop where when i go into one, and pres the down or up arrow, it clicks, reloads the page, and has highlighted the item in question. That's annoying as all hell. i don't think it's user error with anoone. I have a good computer, and I've used many more good computers, and I still have JAWS problems. Every version just keeps getting worse!!! I'm thinking of switching to Window Eyes or Hal. No, scratch that. I'nm not thinking, I'm going to. And I do like that Windoww Eyes allows you to pay by plans. That's neat!!!

## Post 32 by Striker (Consider your self warned, i'm creative and offensive like handicap porn.) on Wednesday, 13-Aug-2008 20:56:25

ok, what is bad about the way that jaws works is that is is completely dependant on video intercept technology. So, if your windows machine has conflicts in video drivers and display drivers or hardware support isn't 100% for what you're using jfw won't work that well. that is why a lot of the cheeper comps don't work as well because they use hardware that isn't 100% fully compatible.
Seccondly many things in jaws are regulated by script functions. Seeing as fs isn't always that good with testing there code conflicts are bound to take place. they have there fare share of sloppy programing. Clutter and the like.
Things get worse on the pacmate because of how jaws is ran on the device. Jaws could be a good product with heavy heavy reform. but Window eyes is a much more stable screen reader and the scrypting functions can help you acheeve just about anything with the screen reader. Plus scrypting for window eyes is much more flexible and user friendly.
for now, go with window eyes. Watch as the scrypting takes off and before long I doubt you'll look back at jaws.