# Serious controversial books

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## Post 1 by Siriusly Severus (The ESTJ 1w9 3w4 6w7 The Taskmaste) on Friday, 12-Jun-2009 14:44:19

Anyone like anything of the sort, and no, hell, I don't fucking mean Harry Potter, I mean stimulating books that can actually make a debate about the morals in the book? Why is this

## Post 2 by Miss Gorgeous (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Tuesday, 11-Aug-2009 1:42:38

Are you talking about any specific genre? Give some examples, and we can go from there.

## Post 3 by Eleni21 (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Sunday, 16-Aug-2009 16:02:08

Actually, you could get into a very stimulating, intellectual and interesting debate discussing Harry Potter. For one thing, the cultural and sociological insights, the implications of Harry's actions, the good versus evil debate on more than just the surface level, the treatment of religion and the cultural similarities between the fictional world of the novels and our own make good starting points. We could even go into a discussion of the novel and how it influences children as well as the economy. Just thought I'd bring those up.

## Post 4 by SunshineAndRain (I'm happily married, a mom of two and a fulltime college student.) on Sunday, 16-Aug-2009 22:01:36

Yeah, by all means, don't downplay the many stimulating debates regarding Harry Potter. Yeah, definitely give examples of books you want to discuss.

## Post 5 by Siriusly Severus (The ESTJ 1w9 3w4 6w7 The Taskmaste) on Tuesday, 13-Oct-2009 22:22:33

Controversial meaning books such as
Atlas Shrugged
1491
fairtax
and other book concerning one side of the debate in politics, economics, law, and such things.

## Post 6 by SilverLightning (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Wednesday, 14-Oct-2009 9:28:55

Well, first, I find your exclusion of books that you don't find stimulating to be rather closed minded. I find books such as Gods and Generals, Of Mice and Men, and yes, Harry Potter, to be stimualting; and as previously stated, you can make many intellectual debates about harry potter. In fact, I've done so on many occations. I've even protested the burning of harry potter books by religious extremest. And there is a debate in itself, is burning of books extremism?
As for atlas shrugged, it was an alright book,, a little far-fetched in my opinion, and incredibly one sided, but not bad. the writing style was a little dry though.
If you mean books that spark debates however, I think that fahrinhite 451 is an excellent one. It can spark many debates, and is another one that I have discussed at length.
Don't dismiss a book simply because it does not deal with real life. Atlas shrugged hardly dealt with real life did it, and yet was still a book that could spark debates. though historically it was mainly forgotten because it was written in a time when many people were conservative. If it had been written and published ten years later, it might have sparked some very heated debates.
Every book has a point, and every point can be argued. You could even discuss the ethics of detective novels,, the believability of sherlock holmes, the impact of shakespearean plays, and so on and so forth. So to look down on a popular series for whatever reason and say that it does not spark debates and is not philisophical, goes against all philisophic principles.
As for why people can't read a fictional book and simple enjoy it, instead of having to read so much into them and let them control there lives well... who is john golt?

## Post 7 by jamesk (This site is so "educational") on Thursday, 15-Oct-2009 2:32:01

the Bible! arguably the most controversial book of all time

## Post 8 by faithful angel (I'll have the last word, thank you!) on Monday, 26-Oct-2009 16:21:06

I have to agree whole-heartedly with post 6 on this one.

## Post 9 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Monday, 26-Oct-2009 16:33:43

I should say the burning of books says far more about the book burners than the books. Generally, burnings stimulate an animal riotous mentality which, although begun by religious or social groups, tends to cause people to stray far afield of what said groups allegedly try to create. Yes, I think burning is caused by extremism, but the intoxication of the burnings / riots create new extremists. Crack cocaine feeds the addiction, but without the first dose, there's no addiction. Note that you can watch modern lapidation (stoning) on Youtube right now, and the crowds behave similarly to those who engage in public burnings of any kind. Much has also been written about the intoxicating effects of gladiatorial sports in Roman times - and perhaps now we have our modern equivalents. Are the books controversial? Or is it just the ideas portrayed? Possibly part of the intoxication of these folks is that since the ideas won't go away, they have a never-ending supply of the drug needed to feed their habit.

## Post 10 by icequeen (move over school!) on Friday, 30-Oct-2009 13:48:14

The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming (and Environmentalism) by Christopher C. Horner
From the Inside Flap
"Global warming":
the Left's last best chance to gain a stranglehold on our political system and economy
For decades, environmentalism has been the Left's best excuse for increasing government control over our actions in ways both large and small. It's for Mother Earth! It's for the children! It's for the whales! But until now, the doomsday-scenario environmental scares they've trumped up haven't been large enough to justify the lifestyle restrictions they want to impose. With global warming, however, greenhouse gasbags can argue that auto emissions in Ohio threaten people in Paris, and that only "global governance" (Jacques Chirac's words) can tackle such problems.
Now, in The Politically Incorrect Guide(tm) to Global Warming and Environmentalism, Christopher C. Horner tears the cover off the Left's manipulation of environmental issues for political purposes--and lays out incontrovertible evidence for the fact that catastrophic man-made global warming is just more Chicken-Little hysteria, not actual science. He explains why, although Al Gore and his cronies among the media elites and UN globalists endlessly bleat that "global warming" is an unprecedented global crisis, they really think of it as a dream come true. It's the ideal scare campaign for those who hate capitalism and love big government. For, as Horner explains, if global warming really were as bad as the Leftist doomsayers insist it is, then no policy imaginable could "solve" it. According to the logic of the greens' own numbers, no matter how much we sacrifice there would still be more to do. That makes global warming the bottomless well of excuses for the relentless growth of big government.
Horner (an attorney and senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute) reveals the full anti-American, anti-capitalist, and anti-human agenda of today's environmentalists, dubbing them "green on the outside, red to the core." He details how they use strong-arm legal tactics--and worse--against those who dare to point out the weakness of their arguments for global warming. Along the way, he explodes ten top global warming myths, carefully examining the evidence to determine how much warming there really is and what is actually causing it. He exposes the lies that the environmental lobby routinely tells to make its case; the ways in which it is trying to impose initiatives such as the Kyoto Protocol on an unwilling American public; and much mo